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How Would You Rate This Episode?
10 (Perfect!)
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9.5 (One of the Best)
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9.0 (Excellent)
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8.5 (Very Good)
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8.0 (Pretty Good)
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7.5 (Decent)
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IKnowWhatYoureThinking
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good spot Mike. You can see the differences in the "D" on the hat easily. Wear and tear make it more difficult to see if it was actually the same style hat, but I'd venture to say the seconf hat was never as full looking as the first hat.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Tigers Fan (8.4) Reply with quote

OK, but I still choose to believe that it was intended to be the same hat. (Though one could alternatively say that Magnum considered it to be an acceptable replacement for the one Tanaka had "confiscated" from him.)


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[From Episode Note 3] Lance White was a minor reccurring character played by Tom Selleck!

I don't feel it's quite accurate to describe Lance White as a "minor" recurring character -- that makes him sound like this series' Cleo. (By the way, James, the Post a Reply spellcheck says you've got one too many c's in recurring.) True, he was in only two episodes, but in those episodes, he was a major character. Maybe that line would work better without the word "recurring" -- something like "The character Lance White (who appeared in two episodes of Rockford) was played by Tom Selleck!"


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Sure hated to see Tanaka go. Would have liked to have him there till the end.

Agreed! It seems odd that they didn't wait till a bit later in the season (not that the season was long enough anyhow!). Judging by how little screen time Tanaka had in this episode (note that in the flashback, he's "played" by the camera), I'm wondering whether Kwan Hi Lim might have known he was going to be unavailable for the rest of the filming season, and suggested that his character die. They could have filmed his few scenes first. Perhaps the injured leg that we saw in "Pleasure Principle" was going to require surgery.


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Why did he wait 14 years to avenge his partner's death? .... It was implied that Tanaka had been dwelling on the death for years.

I don't recall that any reason was given (or even hinted at) in the episode, but my theory is that Tanaka had believed until very recently that Grady Walker was actually still in the hospital with a complete mental breakdown, and perhaps felt that that sort of living hell was far better punishment than a quick death. Then he either saw Walker somewhere, or (more likely, I think) found out from an informant that he was once again involved in drug traffic. Or perhaps he had actually not been dwelling on Rob's death -- until he was awakened by that nightmare.

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Question: Does anyone else think that Biff looks like a hapa-haole (technically, half non-Hawaiian, but most often meaning part white)? It seems odd to me that he's apparently supposed to be of entirely Japanese ancestry. If Tanaka is his uncle, but his last name is Ikeda, then his mother is the Lieutenant's sister, which works, because both of them look very Asian. Of course, Biff's father, even though his name was apparently Ikeda, may have been of only part-Japanese ancestry. That's very common in Hawaii. All that would be required for him to have that family name would be that his father's father's ... father was Japanese. (Or Biff could have been adopted!)



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

golfmobile wrote:

And I risk being ostracized by saying this, BUT AT THE TIME I WATCHED THE FINAL EPISODE when it actually aired, I was very disappointed in the ending with Thomas going back into the Navy because of Lily and by Rick's marrying (or almost marrying) such an unlikeable and unsympathetic female. That was my feeling at the time and it still is. I'm sorry, folks, but I just didn't like that ending.

1. The Navy scenario: Okay, yes, it did give Thomas a steady income, but was he going to mooch off Higgins to be his babysitter while he was at work at the naval base every day? Thomas left the Navy because he didn't want to deal with the politics and regulations. I was disappointed that he rather compromised his principles just because he felt responsible for a daughter. He wouldn't be a very happy father in that case and therefore not a good father (IN MY OPINION). I'm not sure I have a better suggestion for a job for him, but something like his taking a well-paying and important job as head of security at one of the really big Honolulu hotels where he would have a live-in apartment on-site and we would see him arranging for some kind of day care while he was officially at work and also making arrangements for a back-up babysitter if he had to do something at night (a good excuse to give, for example, a very reliable native Hawaiian cleaning lady at the hotel a chance to earn more money and show how her extended family would be of benefit to Lily, who was certainly short on family at this point in time).

Again, these are just some ideas I'm throwing out because I was disappointed in 1988 and felt the ending was a really big letdown to something that had been so good for so long. Like if Cheers had ended when Sam sold the bar and sank his boat . . . .

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I'm in total agreement with you, Golf. Magnum going back to the Navy, was a huge step backward for the character. Since when does "growing up" have to mean returning to a former job? Starting his own security consulting firm would've been a better move. Besides, Thomas was over forty and I don't know that the USN would even want someone that old back, despite previous service. I hated that ending!

As for "Tigers Fan" itself, Tanaka's death was poorly handled and the episode itself was badlyexecuted. Thomas shoots up a ship of drug dealers and gets to walk away laughing from the crime scene? Ugh!



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that the scene out on the baseball field where Magnum kind of hugs Tanaka to be a bit forced to say the least. I don't think that their relationship quite warranted that level of casualness. I guess I'm not a big touchy-feely person so maybe it's just me.

It did seem to me to be a rather forced tactic to quickly build the appearance of more affection in the relationship than perhaps had been shown to the viewer, and for the purpose of adding more emotion to the plight of catching his killer later.

So, I really wasn't a fan of having to off Tanaka just because the series is in its final season. Also, I'm not quite sure how Grady recognized Tanaka or knew he was a cop? Excuse me if I missed it elsewhere in the thread.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I loved this episode. I remember being shocked that Tanaka was killed. It's been eons since I've seen this one, but I definitely recall liking it. Magnum got a bit darker towards the end of the run and I think many of these later episodes are so great and unexpected. It makes the more comedic ones even funnier to me in a way because the balance shifted and the less serious episodes were the ones that begun to stick out to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

artie wrote:
It’s hard to tell since I don’t believe a definite time line has ever been established in the show, season two for all we know was just a year or two earlier in Magnum P.I. time. What do you think?


A definite timeline was established in this show. It happened in more or less "real-time", with each new season representing another year in the MPI universe. For example:

Memories Are Forever (Season 2, Episode 5 | 1981)
Little Girl Who (Season 7, Episode 6 | 1986)

In the latter episode, Magnum notes that the time frame is correct for Lily to be his daughter, because she was 5 years old and she would have been conceived when Magnum had last been with Michelle, i.e., during the events of "Memories Are Forever", about 5 years prior.

There are other examples which establish a timeline in this show as well, such as Magnum turning 40 in season 7, and being 34 in season 1.


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TIGERS FAN still stands out as one of my all time favorite episodes. It has a little bit of everything, from hot dogs to Albanian Countesses, friendship, humor, action, revenge. As a child of the 80's, I remember the later years of Magnum the best, and this episode always stuck with me. As likeable a character as T.M. was, one should never forget that if you cross him bad enough he will sneak onto your ship under the cover of darkness and kill every soul on board! Magnum is BAD ASS!


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