Shocking Flubs!

[J.J. Walters]

Hey guys, I'm going to be adding a new page to the site called "Shocking Flubs". I'm open to any and all suggestions for content. The list will not be officially ranked, but it will be loosely sorted in descending order from "Most Shocking" on down.

Here's what I have so far (in summary format):

- Army/Navy play each other in the ... Rose Bowl Game!? (No More Mr. Nice Guy)

- Magnum's birthday

- Magnum's rank

- Placing Robin's Nest on the North Shore - Where the heck are the waves?

- Continuity errors in aerial sequences with the T.C.'s chopper - Different choppers used in the same sequence, the "disappearing" (and magically re-appearing) birthday sign in The Look, etc.

- Nurse says "call an ambulance!" at the hospital (Under World)

- Col. Buck Greene's last name - numerous times either his badge or the official credits list him as "Green"

- Having the same actor (Paul Burke) play two different, important Navy Admirals in two different, important episodes/stories

There are more, but can't think of any right now! Paging IslandHopper!

[Doc Ibold]

What about Joey?

In 8 years, Magnum has NEVER mentioned that he had a brother except for about 5 mins in one episode?

I wouldn't technically call it a flub, but it is odd.

We know TC has brothers and a family in NO, Rick has a sister and is adopted, the Higgins brood, etc.

[Shermy]

I generally don't consider something a flub if it was common practice for the time. For example, visible stuntmen, actors in multiple roles, a crew member's hand being used for a quick closeup shot; etc. It's a bit like watching an old movie and pointing out the rear projection shots. However, there are cases when common sense should've kicked in at some point. (Such as the aforementioned Paul Burke roles.)

One of the most shocking examples has to be Bob Minor's re-appearance in Round and Around. We've mentioned it before, but it still makes me laugh to think about it. Didn't anyone stopped to think, "You know, we just killed this guy off earlier in the episode...maybe bringing him back for such an extended fight scene would be a little odd?"

And to a lesser extent, the stuntman scene in Double Jeopardy is also a little ironic. The whole point of the scene is that Magnum is about to be beaten up (for real)- which of course immediately draws the audience's attention to the use of TS' own stunt double.

[J.J. Walters]

Shermy, the Ron Pennington one is one of my favorites, too! Just hilarious!

Doc, you better believe Joey made it! You know its funny, every time Joey Peterson is mentioned two things pop into my mind - the old Concrete Blonde song Joey ("Joey, if you're hurtin' so am I"), and 2) Frodo from Lord of the Rings ("We must never speak of it again!"). Don't ask me why.

Ok, so the first ten flubs are on the page: http://magnum-mania.com/Lists/Shocking_Flubs.html

Let's hear some more!

[Shermy]

I love the pic used for "Magnum's Birthday". It seems to be saying, "How could we screw up something so simple?"

[IslandHopper]

There are more, but can't think of any right now! Paging IslandHopper!

I like the new flub category James. I will report more soon. However, one of my favorites that we have already discussed is in "J. Digger Doyle" (season 1), where Higgins speaks to Robin for 7 seconds on the phone, then Higgins gives a very detailed 61 second report regarding J. Doyle, Star Guard, the attempt on Robin's life, etc. How could Higgins have gotten 61 seconds of very detailed dialogue from a 7 second conversation with Robin?

[308GTS]

There's always the possibility that Robin may have simply said to Higgins, "please explain what we discussed in detail last night" with Magnum and Digger.

There are more, but can't think of any right now! Paging IslandHopper!

I like the new flub category James. I will report more soon. However, one of my favorites that we have already discussed is in "J. Digger Doyle" (season 1), where Higgins speaks to Robin for 7 seconds on the phone, then Higgins gives a very detailed 61 second report regarding J. Doyle, Star Guard, the attempt on Robin's life, etc. How could Higgins have gotten 61 seconds of very detailed dialogue from a 7 second conversation with Robin?

[Doc Ibold]

Hey James,

I think I came up with someother ones.

In "Basket Case", in the closing sequence, we find out that the foster parents are in the middle of pilfering the living room, and after the mother throws the statuette, Willie is devastated.

Higgins assure her that they are all cheap imitations that they planted there after they learned of the scheme.

Here's the "flub". Higgins and Magnum have pretty much only known Willie for 3 days, four TOPS. Assuming the first 2 days they didn't know that Willie was dealing with crooked foster parents, that would have given them 2 days to learn about the plot, deduce what was going to happen, and THEN find imitations of priceless pieces of art? That seems pretty much unplausible.

But thats just my thought.

AND, I think this could be considered a big character flub.

In "Tran Quoc Jones", after all is said and done, bad guys caught, Tran Quoc Jones goes back to the streets. Now I know this was never really resolved, but do you actually think that Magnum/Higgins/Rick/TC would let some kid wander off to live on the streets after all they did to try to reunite him with his family?!

I mean, especially TC who

1) is about ready to kick some @ss for this kid
2) talks about searching for aunts and uncles
3) says to have TQ call him WHENEVER he needs him

is going to let this kid run off? I mean, lets look at his resources.

1) Higgins, who is in with charities for wayward boys and whatnot
2) Rick, who has connections who can keep an eye on the street
and
3) Magnum, who, um, lets see, has experience in (for example)...

Finding delta force operatives who have been missing for 10 years
Locating con artists in the witness protection program
Solving decades old murder cases using HIS FREAKING DREAMS! Tracking down Hungarian orintologists who haven't been seen since the 40s
Knowing when emotionally unstable women are in trouble with dogs
Tracking down the murderer of his friend using psychic clues
And taking down a revolutionary army with his 3 friends?

Um, yeah, I have a little hunch that Magnum could find this kid.

[IslandHopper]

There's always the possibility that Robin may have simply said to Higgins, "please explain what we discussed in detail last night" with Magnum and Digger.

There are more, but can't think of any right now! Paging IslandHopper!

I like the new flub category James. I will report more soon. However, one of my favorites that we have already discussed is in "J. Digger Doyle" (season 1), where Higgins speaks to Robin for 7 seconds on the phone, then Higgins gives a very detailed 61 second report regarding J. Doyle, Star Guard, the attempt on Robin's life, etc. How could Higgins have gotten 61 seconds of very detailed dialogue from a 7 second conversation with Robin?

I don't think so. Even if that were so, Higgins' dialogue about J. Doyle and Star Guard lasted way more than 7 seconds. And if Robin secretly hired Star Guard, then he wouldn't have told Higgins about it before J. Doyle was to attempt to sneak onto the estate. What's the point of hiring a security specialist to test the security at Robin's nest if you are going to tip off Higgins ahead of time? So, Higgins could not have known about Star Guard before his telephone conversation with Robin and obviously wouldn't have had so much to say about J. Doyle and Star Guard. His dialogue about J. Doyle and Star Guard was too in depth and lasted much longer than his 7 second conversation with Robin. That is why this is a glaring flub worth noting.

[308GTS]

One of the biggest flubs must be that when we see TM leave the main house he always takes a left by the bushes and then under the extended part of the house and seemingly around to the left to his guest house.

In reality we all know that the guest house is the other side of the tennis court!

[J.J. Walters]

Hah, good one IslandHopper!

But what if Robin Masters as a novelist is just a ruse? What if Robin Masters is a real person, but he doesn't write novels? Higgins writes the novels, but gives the credit to Robin Masters. To perpetrate this fraud, Higgins sometimes has Robin make appearances, or call at opportune times (like when Magnum's around). Higgins knows all about Digger and Star Guard and everything else. The real flub here is that Magnum didn't pick up on it at the time. He should have thought, "Gee, that was a quick phone call. How did he know so much detail from a six second call?".

Magnum, who, um, lets see, has experience in (for example)...

Finding delta force operatives who have been missing for 10 years
Locating con artists in the witness protection program
Solving decades old murder cases using HIS FREAKING DREAMS! Tracking down Hungarian orintologists who haven't been seen since the 40s
Knowing when emotionally unstable women are in trouble with dogs
Tracking down the murderer of his friend using psychic clues
And taking down a revolutionary army with his 3 friends?

LOL! Haha! Doc, I can't tell you how hard I laughed at this post! My stomach hurts, my eyes were watering! LOL! Boy that felt good!



But you're right, poor Tran Quoc! The gang left him hanging!

One of the biggest flubs must be that when we see TM leave the main house he always takes a left by the bushes and then under the extended part of the house and seemingly around to the left to his guest house.

In reality we all know that the guest house is the other side of the tennis court!

Ah, nice Arun! Weird, I had just added that to the page, before I saw your post. Are you reading my mind, or something?

[J.J. Walters]

Ok, the J. "Digger" Doyle and Tran Quoc Jones flubs have been added to the page. Great picks! Those are two laugh out loud classics right there!

Doc, I'm not so sure about the Basket Case flub. Two days is an eternity for these guys to get all of that done. Piece of cake.

[Doc Ibold]

True.

I work in advertising, so I make the impossible happen all the time.



Actually I was watchng the TQJ episode that night, and was like "hmmm, that would be a good flub" However, when I woke up in the morning, I totally forgot about it, so I was scanning the episodes page to jog my memory, and I came along Basket Case. So I wrote about that, and in the middle, TQJ came back to me!

[burroughsmvp]

Hey James...

somebody may have already mentioned it... but Army and Navy did move their game west one year... in 1983, and played in the Rose Bowl stadium in Pasadena.

Navy won.

[burroughsmvp]

A few others that could fit your criteria...

in No More Mr Nice Guy, Carol is "Carol Douglas" instead of Carol Baldwin

in Going Home, TM talks about not being home since 1970, but in other episodes he talks about being in Vietnam in '67, '69, '71, and '75.

In Missing in Action, TM says he left for Vietnam on July 15, 1967, but later talks about playing in Navy football games the fall of '67.

In Squeeze Play, Robin refers to the Washington Senators going out of existence in '69. They moved to Texas after 1971.

More baseball in Limited Engagement, as TM and the old man talk about playing for the Senators in '52 and how the team moved to Texas. That team actually moved to Minnesota and a new franchise was awarded to Washington in '61. That second franchise moved to Texas for the '72 season.

In The Return of Luther Gillis, JQH says he's not "of the realm", but in Echoes of the Mind, he's a Baron.

We see a microphone in "Under World" by the coffee machine.

In Luther Gillis File #001, JQH and Luther talk about the spring of '54 and Luther trying out for the St Louis Browns. That was their first year the franchise moved to Baltimore.

In that same episode, TM pulls the Ferrari through the opening at the estate and turns left. It happens again in Round and Around.

The polo scenes in Ms Jones are the same as Home From the Sea

TM blames two different people for the assasination of Anwar Sadat (one in Did You See The Sun Rise and another in Deja Vu)