Rapture (6.11)
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I know that some don't like the "other world" kind of shows on MPI, but the occasional ones.. this one, Mac's Back, et al... really appeal to me.
Magnum's empathy for the boy's mom was well played and very moving. It was easy to be affected by the mother's loss and Magnum's concern for her. There were other parts of the episode that were fine, but this part was enough for me to think it was an excellent episode, despite some flaws which others have detailed.
The humor in the library was needed to balance the somber feeling regarding the young boy and his mom. Magnum's unequaled destruction of the library bothered me some, as I really don't think he'd just pull the books and then throw them on the floor or wherever they landed. But, when Higgy Baby entered and Magnum tried to hide under the table, now that was funny. I also love how Magnum intentionally uses the wrong words or identities to annoy Higgins, such as call the mounted animal head a "moose".
The interaction between Magnum and Higgins throughout the series is fantastic, and despite the bickering, yelling and angry words, I see their mutual respect and admiration as a major theme in the entire series.
Magnum's empathy for the boy's mom was well played and very moving. It was easy to be affected by the mother's loss and Magnum's concern for her. There were other parts of the episode that were fine, but this part was enough for me to think it was an excellent episode, despite some flaws which others have detailed.
The humor in the library was needed to balance the somber feeling regarding the young boy and his mom. Magnum's unequaled destruction of the library bothered me some, as I really don't think he'd just pull the books and then throw them on the floor or wherever they landed. But, when Higgy Baby entered and Magnum tried to hide under the table, now that was funny. I also love how Magnum intentionally uses the wrong words or identities to annoy Higgins, such as call the mounted animal head a "moose".
The interaction between Magnum and Higgins throughout the series is fantastic, and despite the bickering, yelling and angry words, I see their mutual respect and admiration as a major theme in the entire series.
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Doc Fred wrote:I know that some don't like the "other world" kind of shows on MPI, but the occasional ones.. this one, Mac's Back, et al... really appeal to me.
Magnum's empathy for the boy's mom was well played and very moving. It was easy to be affected by the mother's loss and Magnum's concern for her. There were other parts of the episode that were fine, but this part was enough for me to think it was an excellent episode, despite some flaws which others have detailed.
The humor in the library was needed to balance the somber feeling regarding the young boy and his mom. Magnum's unequaled destruction of the library bothered me some, as I really don't think he'd just pull the books and then throw them on the floor or wherever they landed. But, when Higgy Baby entered and Magnum tried to hide under the table, now that was funny. I also love how Magnum intentionally uses the wrong words or identities to annoy Higgins, such as call the mounted animal head a "moose".
The interaction between Magnum and Higgins throughout the series is fantastic, and despite the bickering, yelling and angry words, I see their mutual respect and admiration as a major theme in the entire series.
That's one of the things that worries me about a major motion picture movie. I think the easy way out would be to make Higgins a thorn in Magnums side rather than explore the complexities of his character and the underlying respect they have for each other.
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I liked this one. It was one of those "Magnum's going to solve this case no matter what it takes even though he's not actually hired by anyone to do so" episodes. The mother relapsing into her despair the more Magnum tried to help was kind of unique plot. They did stretch in a couple of places, but not to the point that I thought it took away from the logic of the episode.
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Rapture is one of my favorites. The library scenes are hysterical ( zaftig clerk, the mind of magnum) and just wonderful. The denouement is perfect. And I love Magnum's weirdly psychic ways. Maybe it is becasue I lost my father and mother when i was fairly young and used to sleep to see them much like the mother does in this episode. Grief is such a powerful emotion and it is portrayed so well by the local Hawaiian actress . BTW- Titantic has the same theme - a decade later..."ill see you in my dreams" celine dion -
this although melancholy is one of my top 10 magnum's.
this although melancholy is one of my top 10 magnum's.
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Found on incredible blooper in this episode. TC van pass when Magnum is in the bar after arrived with Ferrari
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This show ranks as one of the most memorable of all time for me. I can still see the child in the water motioning to TM. To find out the father and money was the "culrpit" was pretty rough as a reason for the death of a child but to let him just fly off was kind of a "non-ending." I know I like the shows with kids in them but in this one the truth about the child was discovered but there was no justice. MPI had a reputation of not always ending well. Maybe this was just another one of those episodes.
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mandolabar wrote:Even a library that size must make allowances for the size of its librarian...and Higgins would need the rolling stool, even if Magnum didn't.Lily wrote:Yes! I also thought that the roller stool was rather strange, as it looked very out of place in a library that size! I would have expected to see Robin Masters library lined, floor to ceiling with books, and one of those ladders on a track to reach the higher shelving.
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It's not pool.
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Snooker!
Snucker.
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A great episode.
“I have studied Aristotle, Socrates, William Friedrich Hegel, Bertrand Russell. I have toured college campuses debating the virtues of dialectic versus symbolic syllogism. I have written scholarly articles on the need for a new, more dynamic logic. But nothing in my life has prepared me for the workings of the Thomas Magnum mind”.
“I found it Keli’i... I found it”.
“I have studied Aristotle, Socrates, William Friedrich Hegel, Bertrand Russell. I have toured college campuses debating the virtues of dialectic versus symbolic syllogism. I have written scholarly articles on the need for a new, more dynamic logic. But nothing in my life has prepared me for the workings of the Thomas Magnum mind”.
“I found it Keli’i... I found it”.
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According to the subtitles, you are both wrong, it is a KEG buffalo. I wonder where the tapper is?
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Maybe I'm being melodramatic, but when she says "I've been trying to figure out all afternoon how it is that some people lose everyone who's close to them", you can almost see Magnum ticking off the names in his head....Doc Fred wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:29 am Magnum's empathy for the boy's mom was well played and very moving. It was easy to be affected by the mother's loss and Magnum's concern for her. There were other parts of the episode that were fine, but this part was enough for me to think it was an excellent episode, despite some flaws which others have detailed.
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"I woke up one day at 53 and realized I'd never been 23."
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EPISODE: 6.11 RAPTURE
Famous guest stars:
Hawaiian shirts: 1
Tigers Cap:
Island Hopper shirts: 1
Shirtless Magnum:
OMG: 1
Higgins Organizations: 1 Anglo-Hawaiian Aeronautical Enthusiast Society
Higgins musings: 2
Negotiations:
Gun Play:
Bullet wounds:
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 1
When I write HTBAWCPI:
Investigator corrections:
4th wall breaks: 1
Magnumometer: 8
Magnumometer Moments: https://vimeo.com/623975998
Blood and Honor and Rapture, which scored 7 and 8 on the Magnumometer, put an end to a long streak of really low scoring episodes. Prior to them, you have to go all the way back to 5.10 Luther Gillis: File #001 to find an episode scoring that high. The intervening 21 episodes averaged only 3.78 on the Magnumometer, with two zeros! (The zeros were the second hour of Deja Vu, and Paniolo.)
Also of note, we’re 10 episodes and 11 hours into Season 6 and this is the first time we encounter a Higgins Musing (at least we get two here). Makes me wonder if I missed one. And Magnum breaks the 4th wall for the first time in Season 6. It’s almost like a “return to normal” episode.
Where would the computer at the estate be pulling this information from? There was no internet back then…unless you were at the DoD or a university, that is (ARPANET), right?
Famous guest stars:
Hawaiian shirts: 1
Tigers Cap:
Island Hopper shirts: 1
Shirtless Magnum:
OMG: 1
Higgins Organizations: 1 Anglo-Hawaiian Aeronautical Enthusiast Society
Higgins musings: 2
Negotiations:
Gun Play:
Bullet wounds:
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 1
When I write HTBAWCPI:
Investigator corrections:
4th wall breaks: 1
Magnumometer: 8
Magnumometer Moments: https://vimeo.com/623975998
Blood and Honor and Rapture, which scored 7 and 8 on the Magnumometer, put an end to a long streak of really low scoring episodes. Prior to them, you have to go all the way back to 5.10 Luther Gillis: File #001 to find an episode scoring that high. The intervening 21 episodes averaged only 3.78 on the Magnumometer, with two zeros! (The zeros were the second hour of Deja Vu, and Paniolo.)
Also of note, we’re 10 episodes and 11 hours into Season 6 and this is the first time we encounter a Higgins Musing (at least we get two here). Makes me wonder if I missed one. And Magnum breaks the 4th wall for the first time in Season 6. It’s almost like a “return to normal” episode.
Where would the computer at the estate be pulling this information from? There was no internet back then…unless you were at the DoD or a university, that is (ARPANET), right?
Ensign Healy
Scholar in Residence
The Institute for Advanced Magnum Studies
"I woke up one day at 53 and realized I'd never been 23."
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The Institute for Advanced Magnum Studies
"I woke up one day at 53 and realized I'd never been 23."
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I have a confession- I gave up on this one 10 minutes in.
Prolonged underwater scenes are a bit of a turn off for me and annoying kids in episodes are another deterrent.
I know - there’s no Carol Baldwin so it can’t be that bad ?
Something about the story just made me bored.
Prolonged underwater scenes are a bit of a turn off for me and annoying kids in episodes are another deterrent.
I know - there’s no Carol Baldwin so it can’t be that bad ?
Something about the story just made me bored.
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No judgement here, but there are a lot of divers here on the forum who enjoy the underwater scenes. Lots of kayakers too who enjoy the paddling scenes. I count myself in both groups! TM does a lot of open water swimming to so my wife would agree, but me less so. I prefer sailing which is remarkably absent from the series.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:33 pm I have a confession- I gave up on this one 10 minutes in.
Prolonged underwater scenes are a bit of a turn off for me and annoying kids in episodes are another deterrent.
I know - there’s no Carol Baldwin so it can’t be that bad ?
Something about the story just made me bored.
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You know, as I wrote that last night I felt a bit guilty of not being open to something new to me, even if I usually found that tedious, but as you get older I suppose one can get a bit more narrow minded.Pahonu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:11 amNo judgement here, but there are a lot of divers here on the forum who enjoy the underwater scenes. Lots of kayakers too who enjoy the paddling scenes. I count myself in both groups! TM does a lot of open water swimming to so my wife would agree, but me less so. I prefer sailing which is remarkably absent from the series.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:33 pm I have a confession- I gave up on this one 10 minutes in.
Prolonged underwater scenes are a bit of a turn off for me and annoying kids in episodes are another deterrent.
I know - there’s no Carol Baldwin so it can’t be that bad ?
Something about the story just made me bored.
Different strokes and all that - you may recall I'm a big fan of cricket and I know what you're thinking - how can someone who enjoys a very tedious sport find diving boring ?
I'd love for there to have been an episode centred on that sport where Higgins turns out for the Anglo-Hawaiian Cricket Association first XI but 99% of the intended MPI audience would have been bored rigid by that.
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Different strokes for sure. I do remember some of your cricket comments in the Squeeze Play episode. Did Higgins even reference cricket in the series? I don’t recall. With all Higgins’ British oriented activities, including polo and snooker, it is curious the lack of cricket.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:30 amYou know, as I wrote that last night I felt a bit guilty of not being open to something new to me, even if I usually found that tedious, but as you get older I suppose one can get a bit more narrow minded.Pahonu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:11 amNo judgement here, but there are a lot of divers here on the forum who enjoy the underwater scenes. Lots of kayakers too who enjoy the paddling scenes. I count myself in both groups! TM does a lot of open water swimming to so my wife would agree, but me less so. I prefer sailing which is remarkably absent from the series.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:33 pm I have a confession- I gave up on this one 10 minutes in.
Prolonged underwater scenes are a bit of a turn off for me and annoying kids in episodes are another deterrent.
I know - there’s no Carol Baldwin so it can’t be that bad ?
Something about the story just made me bored.
Different strokes and all that - you may recall I'm a big fan of cricket and I know what you're thinking - how can someone who enjoys a very tedious sport find diving boring ?
I'd love for there to have been an episode centred on that sport where Higgins turns out for the Anglo-Hawaiian Cricket Association first XI but 99% of the intended MPI audience would have been bored rigid by that.
I’ve always thought, given its location in Hawaii, that the show had very few surfing related stories. There were only two, I think, and one was only tangentially. Also, while there were many boating scenes, sailing is surprisingly absent. They managed to create an Ironman episode when triathlon was still incredibly obscure, so something like a story about Higgins involving cricket could have worked also.