Did You See the Sunrise? (1) (3.1)
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Agreed about Mac. When I first saw it, I said to myself they did it because his contract wasn't being renewed, or something of that nature...
This, to me, was the best tv show, best tv series ever. Yes, the content of the stories was pretty consistently very good, but it was the interaction between the four major characters, and their personalities, that really made the show for me. A truly great show.
This, to me, was the best tv show, best tv series ever. Yes, the content of the stories was pretty consistently very good, but it was the interaction between the four major characters, and their personalities, that really made the show for me. A truly great show.
Not a comment yet, but a question (well, actually, two questions) -
We'll be getting to this memorable episode soon as we work our way through the series. I've seen an remember it (boy, is it memorable) but my OH hasn't and its one of the ones I'm most looking forward to sharing.
I suppose we should watch it as originally aired, as a feature, but I am tempted to split it, both to basically get an extra week's episode out of it, and to have a major surprise in both episodes.
First question is - do you think it spoils the episode to split it? Any thoughts?
Secondly, can anyone tell me where did the episode break in the syndicated version come? I originally thought with the bomb, but that's a little too early, so I'm guessing it was with the Japanese dignitary's arrival, but thats a non-climax. But the way the DVD has been edited, I'd guess any major fade/break has been removed.
We'll be getting to this memorable episode soon as we work our way through the series. I've seen an remember it (boy, is it memorable) but my OH hasn't and its one of the ones I'm most looking forward to sharing.
I suppose we should watch it as originally aired, as a feature, but I am tempted to split it, both to basically get an extra week's episode out of it, and to have a major surprise in both episodes.
First question is - do you think it spoils the episode to split it? Any thoughts?
Secondly, can anyone tell me where did the episode break in the syndicated version come? I originally thought with the bomb, but that's a little too early, so I'm guessing it was with the Japanese dignitary's arrival, but thats a non-climax. But the way the DVD has been edited, I'd guess any major fade/break has been removed.
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ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)
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Ok, this is just a flat-out perfect episode!! What is it with these 2-hour episodes? The pilot episode is my favorite from season 1, "Memories are Forever" is my favorite from season 2 (though I haven't seen the whole season yet), and this one is my favorite from this season (though I haven't seen the whole season either).
But this one has to be the best MPI episode ever! I really can't imagine it getting any better. You've got top military brass, Japanese dignitaries, Russian villains, POW flashbacks, brain-washings, plot twists, action, and some of the most intense scenes you'll ever see in the MPI world. Can't get any better than that!!
Mac's death and Ivan's execution must be the most powerful stuff this show has ever done! And you just gotta love the Nuzo twist!
Yep, the darker the episode the more I like it. And this one is as dark as it gets! It's almost more Five-0 than MPI.
But this one has to be the best MPI episode ever! I really can't imagine it getting any better. You've got top military brass, Japanese dignitaries, Russian villains, POW flashbacks, brain-washings, plot twists, action, and some of the most intense scenes you'll ever see in the MPI world. Can't get any better than that!!
Mac's death and Ivan's execution must be the most powerful stuff this show has ever done! And you just gotta love the Nuzo twist!
Yep, the darker the episode the more I like it. And this one is as dark as it gets! It's almost more Five-0 than MPI.
this is maybe the best example of what made Magnum the best..........not afraid to shake the viewer from their comfort zone. The series encompassed it all and could make you laugh and damn near cry as well as shock. I guess maybe then for me it is that unpredictability that the show could provide that had me hooked back in the day.
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Bo Svenson (Ivan) is a really interesting guy...
- U.S. Marine Corps 1959-1965.
- U.S. Armed Forces Far East Heavyweight Division Judo Champion (1961).
- High-ranking black belt in judo and other martial arts, inducted into the Martial Arts Masters Hall of Fame in 2009.
- Won silver (65-69-year-old 90kg division) in the 2009 USA Judo National Championships despite three broken ribs suffered days earlier.
- Ph.D. candidate in Meta-Physics at UCLA 1970-1974.
- Chairman of the board and CEO of Motion Picture Group of America from 1984-1994.
- He was television's highest-paid actor for his reprisal of Buford Pusser in the television series "Walking Tall" (1981). Only Johnny Carson was making more than he was at the time.
- U.S. Marine Corps 1959-1965.
- U.S. Armed Forces Far East Heavyweight Division Judo Champion (1961).
- High-ranking black belt in judo and other martial arts, inducted into the Martial Arts Masters Hall of Fame in 2009.
- Won silver (65-69-year-old 90kg division) in the 2009 USA Judo National Championships despite three broken ribs suffered days earlier.
- Ph.D. candidate in Meta-Physics at UCLA 1970-1974.
- Chairman of the board and CEO of Motion Picture Group of America from 1984-1994.
- He was television's highest-paid actor for his reprisal of Buford Pusser in the television series "Walking Tall" (1981). Only Johnny Carson was making more than he was at the time.
Higgins: It's not a scratch! It's a bloody gouge!
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Wow! All that and going for a PhD in Meta-Physics! I wonder if he ever got it? Thanks James.J.J. Walters wrote:Bo Svenson (Ivan) is a really interesting guy...
- U.S. Marine Corps 1959-1965.
- U.S. Armed Forces Far East Heavyweight Division Judo Champion (1961).
- High-ranking black belt in judo and other martial arts, inducted into the Martial Arts Masters Hall of Fame in 2009.
- Won silver (65-69-year-old 90kg division) in the 2009 USA Judo National Championships despite three broken ribs suffered days earlier.
- Ph.D. candidate in Meta-Physics at UCLA 1970-1974.
- Chairman of the board and CEO of Motion Picture Group of America from 1984-1994.
- He was television's highest-paid actor for his reprisal of Buford Pusser in the television series "Walking Tall" (1981). Only Johnny Carson was making more than he was at the time.
"How fiendishly deceptive of you Magnum. I could have sworn I was hearing the emasculation of a large rodent."
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This and part 2 are THE BEST episodes of the whole series in my opinion!
I was only 11yrs old when this first was broadcast in Australia in 1982.
The entire series left deep impact on a young adventurous Aussie kid in the early '80's. And this particular 2-parter stood out to me the most.
I think it was the mixing of all the greatness of the production/writing/directing and acting team.
We saw a great Wartime history of mateship; we saw how that has evolved ten years later in peacetime; we saw an intricate subterfuge plot that could be relevant today; we saw the great character of Higgins at his 'big brother/fatherly' best; and we see more to TM's Naval history.
The sad losing of Mac and intro of Maggie P is well done, seamless and believable. Realistic.
I love the small things - TM watching a classic movie "stalag 17" whilst eating what looks like chocolate drops; Higgins inviting TM to some Devonshire Tea and Scones, and the 'Lads' being so supportive lying with Higgins whilst he is "decapitating" the match heads.
The surf-ski practise run, with TC asking if TM is bothered by "all those big fish..."
And of course TM 'breaking the 4th wall' to include US - the audience at the best moments. You always feel integral to the moment and feeling. Brilliantly done. Wonder whose idea that was? I know that Higgins and TC have also done it, even with TC looking to the audience and asking the question - "Did it ever occur to you that that boy cannot count past one...?" Bloody funny and believable.
The denouement and resolution with TM shooting ‘Ivan’ is THE BEST ENDING of any show EVER! A Veteran, who had seen a recent mate killed, that was meant for himself, and thence being a part of something that is beyond political lines, and discovering the truth, thereby not allowing any real justice be applied, TM acts! As a Retired Australian Army Infantry Soldier and SNIPER, I still watch this show with love and respect - like an old Army mate that I can always talk to, without any disrespect nor critical condemnation.
Good on ya mates! To all of you who made this show. Especially Belisario, a former US Marine. His personal influence, experiences and imagination made this series.
And this is what I believe to be the best of the best!
I was only 11yrs old when this first was broadcast in Australia in 1982.
The entire series left deep impact on a young adventurous Aussie kid in the early '80's. And this particular 2-parter stood out to me the most.
I think it was the mixing of all the greatness of the production/writing/directing and acting team.
We saw a great Wartime history of mateship; we saw how that has evolved ten years later in peacetime; we saw an intricate subterfuge plot that could be relevant today; we saw the great character of Higgins at his 'big brother/fatherly' best; and we see more to TM's Naval history.
The sad losing of Mac and intro of Maggie P is well done, seamless and believable. Realistic.
I love the small things - TM watching a classic movie "stalag 17" whilst eating what looks like chocolate drops; Higgins inviting TM to some Devonshire Tea and Scones, and the 'Lads' being so supportive lying with Higgins whilst he is "decapitating" the match heads.
The surf-ski practise run, with TC asking if TM is bothered by "all those big fish..."
And of course TM 'breaking the 4th wall' to include US - the audience at the best moments. You always feel integral to the moment and feeling. Brilliantly done. Wonder whose idea that was? I know that Higgins and TC have also done it, even with TC looking to the audience and asking the question - "Did it ever occur to you that that boy cannot count past one...?" Bloody funny and believable.
The denouement and resolution with TM shooting ‘Ivan’ is THE BEST ENDING of any show EVER! A Veteran, who had seen a recent mate killed, that was meant for himself, and thence being a part of something that is beyond political lines, and discovering the truth, thereby not allowing any real justice be applied, TM acts! As a Retired Australian Army Infantry Soldier and SNIPER, I still watch this show with love and respect - like an old Army mate that I can always talk to, without any disrespect nor critical condemnation.
Good on ya mates! To all of you who made this show. Especially Belisario, a former US Marine. His personal influence, experiences and imagination made this series.
And this is what I believe to be the best of the best!
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I have recently started watching Magnum, p.i., from start to finish via Netflix. I get to watch 2-3 episodes a week, because I watch during my lunch break at work.
Just yesterday I finished two-part premiere, and I wanted to post that I was sad to see that they killed off Mack.
I have always liked the show, but I didn't get to watch it in the 1980s - my parents wouldn't let me. So, I have started watching it just in the last several years, through syndication and now Netflix. I have always enjoyed a good whodunnit, and especially private detective shows (back then, Charlie's Angels, Simon & Simon, Rockford Files; and more recently Psych, Monk, Castle), but I absolutely love this show!
Just yesterday I finished two-part premiere, and I wanted to post that I was sad to see that they killed off Mack.
I have always liked the show, but I didn't get to watch it in the 1980s - my parents wouldn't let me. So, I have started watching it just in the last several years, through syndication and now Netflix. I have always enjoyed a good whodunnit, and especially private detective shows (back then, Charlie's Angels, Simon & Simon, Rockford Files; and more recently Psych, Monk, Castle), but I absolutely love this show!
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We loved (and love) watching Hawaii 5-0 for the view of our Hawaii in da 70's, then magnum for da view of our Hawaii in da 80's. Now we watch H50 redux for the bickering of the two leads... ah well.
ya know, they should jut drop the other shoe and do a contemporary magnum in modern Hawaii. I betcha they got it in the works as we speak!
ya know, they should jut drop the other shoe and do a contemporary magnum in modern Hawaii. I betcha they got it in the works as we speak!