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rubber chicken · #21 Post by **rubber chicken** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:52 am

I think you're right. There's a backing behind the bars in Higgins' study and not in the hotel room, but otherwise it's too close to think they aren't the same prop. How odd, and only two minutes apart. By the expression on his face, I think the guy on the right is looking at the prop master.

Tralfaz · #22 Post by **Tralfaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:39 pm

Thanks RC!

I have been wondering about this for quite some time.... [I don't have alot going on.....

] I think I remember mentioning it in the "The Study" thread, so thanks for confirming!

T

John · #23 Post by **John** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:30 pm

I really liiked some of the confrontations between Higgens and Magnum. This is the one where Mimi Rogers asks Magnum if Higgins will be upset about the scratch in the Ferrari. Magnum tries to rub it out with spit and she replies that it won't do the job. Magnum replies, "Higgins will understand, it's not my fault."
The next scene is Higgins calling Magnum an irresponsible cretin and Magun says it's just a scratch and Higgins says if it was he would have tried to "rub it out with spit or something eqally disgusting" and Magnum weakly responds "no I wouldn't."

Great Stuff!

Jodykmg365 · #24 Post by **Jodykmg365** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:32 am

This is one of the episodes that I clearly remember watching as a child. The reason I remember it so clearly is Katrina. She was a nutcase. I agree that it was her who scratched the car. The reason I think it was her is because of the way she took the scissors to the pic of Margot and Magnum.

A P Leyland · #25 Post by **A P Leyland** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:41 pm

Really enjoyed this one. One of the things I'm liking about the show on this go round is how they slightly skew established TV cliches. So far we've had some stock stories that appeared on every 70's/80's Cop/detective show and yet Magnum PI has put a nifty twist on most of them. Plots like "Falls in Love with Ballerina", "Amnesia" and "Psycho nutjob bunny boiler girlfriend" were all done on Starsky & Hutch but this managed some interesting twists. On S&H the ballerina episode was horribly melodramatic with Hutch declaring undying love for this person we knew we'd never see again, but Magnum had both parties acknowledging that it was only a fling - a much more adult and mature approach. This episode was wonderful at skewing expectations with Katrina being really normal for half the episode. Other shows telegraph how nutty the girlfriend is well in advance. And Higgins being shot was shocking! A Fine episode.
Andy

lutherhgillis · #26 Post by **lutherhgillis** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:15 pm

In the scene where TM is coming out of the guesthouse door and runs down the steps to trip over the crazy girl there is something interesting.

This is really the boathouse not a guesthouse. This scene is a continuous shot (as far as I can tell). Watch the area behind TM while the door is open. You can see what looks like stairs going down in the same fashion as the set of the guesthouse. I wonder why the boathouse was constructed in such a way? Anyone have any ideas? Maybe there really was a small guest quarters or game room or teen retreat or something there... It's wierd how they went to so much trouble to make stairs to go up on the outside just to go right back down on the inside...

SelleckLover · #27 Post by **SelleckLover** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:23 pm

Maybe the person that maintained the boats lived in the quarters above where the boats were housed? I dunno...just throwing that out there!

lutherhgillis · #28 Post by **lutherhgillis** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:08 pm

Early in the show, when TM tells Katrina that he cannot have lunch and leaves the estate with her standing there watching him, he drives to the college to see his friend. We are then expected to believe that Katrina is already there and watching for Magnum to leave the Ferrari so she can gouge it with the scissors? Katrina didn't even know where TM was going when he left the estate. How could she get there before him?!?

Jodykmg365 · #29 Post by **Jodykmg365** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:28 pm

lutherhgillis wrote:Early in the show, when TM tells Katrina that he cannot have lunch and leaves the estate with her standing there watching him, he drives to the college to see his friend. We are then expected to believe that Katrina is already there and watching for Magnum to leave the Ferrari so she can gouge it with the scissors? Katrina didn't even know where TM was going when he left the estate. How could she get there before him?!?

I always found this strange too. Also, with those other people sitting so close by the car, they would have seen or heard a beer opener being run over the car's hood.

Italian Ice · #30 Post by **Italian Ice** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:41 pm

If anyone hasn't seen it, check out Ann Dusenberry in a Remington Steele Episode. Judith Chapman is also in this one. It was done in 1983 during the shows 2nd season. Ann plays the part of the 2 sisters who have grown up in 2 different worlds, while I believe Judith plays the part of the wealthy businessman's mistress. Kind of a silly plotline that I doubt would have, or has ever happened in real life, but it's a fun episode to watch.

10. My Fair Steele
A wealthy businessman dies and his heir is kidnapped, so Remington Steele must locate the heir’s long lost twin sister in order to flush out who was behind the crime.

rubber chicken · #31 Post by **rubber chicken** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:58 am

I'm thinking this hasn't been mentioned before? The name of the college girl who likes the Ferrari is Camila Griggs, and this episode appears to be her first acting job. Even though her part lasts for perhaps a minute total, she's one of my favorite women to appear on Magnum P.I.

Sometime also in 1982 she was in Forced Vengeance with Chuck Norris. Try and guess who else is in it... yes, you're right! Bob Minor! How'd you know? He doesn't make it to the end credits though, that's for sure. I recently saw Forced Vengeance, it's not bad for a Chuck Norris movie. Camila Griggs has an important part, but isn't in most of the movie.

She was also in Bar Girls, a lesbian romantic comedy, and had various appearances on other TV shows up until 1999.

James - perhaps you could add her name to the "College Students" screencap on the Italian Ice screencaps page.

#32 Post by **J.J. Walters** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:57 am

No problem RC, I got you covered. I've added her to the episode guide and the screen caps page.

#33 Post by **J.J. Walters** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:55 pm

The 1984 Airwolf episode "The Truth About Holly" has a very similar plot to this one. A young lady is rescued from a foreign drug kingpin compound who later, in a jealous rage, tries to kill the people who saved her, namely the "girlfriend" (Jean Bruce Scott's character) of the "hero". The setting, characters, dialog, and ending are quite different, however. The Airwolf episode involves an attempted "death by helicopter crash". Both were written by Don Bellisario.

You can (legally) watch the episode here: http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi1054343193/.

#34 Post by **J.J. Walters** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:59 am

Is Marquis supposed to be French, or Italian? I thought he was supposed to be an Italian gangster?! But yet, isn't "Marquis" a French name? If he is an Italian gangster (with a French name), he sure talks with a French accent!

#35 Post by **Doc Ibold** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:41 am

Well,

A "Marquis" (Mar-kee)is definitely French. However, I think this guy is a "Marchese" (Mar-cay-zee)... which I guess would be the Italian equivalent?

I worked with a woman who had that last name and it always reminds me of this episode. She was always happy that I could say her last name correctly.

Having an unpronouncable Polish last name myself, I can appreciate the props!

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