Plus, some of the flubs are just flat out hilarious!
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J.J. Walters
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"Flub Spotting" is a time-honored tradition among TV & Film fans. Every movie and virtually all TV Dramas have flubs. The Godfather had flubs. Citizen Kane had flubs. Grey's Anatomy has flubs (ask my wife). Star Trek has a ton of them. TV shows are especially prone to them because of the fast production cycle. By spotting them we are not trying to "slam" the show. Spotting them is for fun and is usually done after several viewings of the program. Part of the reason we do it here at MM! is for the episode guide, as a reference.
Plus, some of the flubs are just flat out hilarious!
Plus, some of the flubs are just flat out hilarious!
Higgins: It's not a scratch! It's a bloody gouge!
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As for me, I like flub spotting, but not to make fun of the show. I hope my fellow MagnumManiacs don't think I am being critical of our favorite show. As James mentioned previously, flub spotting usually comes from watching a particular episode so many times, the flubs just jump out at you. I watch the MPI episodes because I am a fan of the show. The fact that I spot flubs is a testament to how much I enjoy the show, because I have seen most of the episodes many times.
To be honest, I get a real kick out of the flubs, because it shows me that I am not the only person out here that is not perfect. If professional actors, directors, writers, editors and crew members with big budgets can make mistakes, then there must be hope for the rest of us.
To be honest, I get a real kick out of the flubs, because it shows me that I am not the only person out here that is not perfect. If professional actors, directors, writers, editors and crew members with big budgets can make mistakes, then there must be hope for the rest of us.
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But, as I said before, it kind of ruins it for me.....so I choose not to read the thread with the flubs. -
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Yea, flub spotting is a tribute to the level of respect for the show and the level of enjoyment we get from watching the show. I wouldn't know a flub from "Saved by the Bell" if you hit me over the head with it...
I still say the show did a pretty good job of keeping it together considering the number of writers they used and the producer changes that happened when Bellasario began to focus on other projects.
I think the strength of the show was in the characters and the actors who played them. Throw in the Hawiian setting and the rich man's estate and you've got something that most folks in the US will watch if only for the change of scenery (it gets cold in most of the US during the fall and winter).
Thanks for posting. This is a great site.
I still say the show did a pretty good job of keeping it together considering the number of writers they used and the producer changes that happened when Bellasario began to focus on other projects.
I think the strength of the show was in the characters and the actors who played them. Throw in the Hawiian setting and the rich man's estate and you've got something that most folks in the US will watch if only for the change of scenery (it gets cold in most of the US during the fall and winter).
Thanks for posting. This is a great site.
Another flub I spotted while looking at the Season 1 DVD this weekend.
After dinner the Brigadier turns in for the night but is actually oustide in the grounds between the main house and the tennis courts. In the series, Magnum's quarters (the guest house) is supposedly on the otherside of the main house, NOT in the direction of the tennis courts. So technically the Brigadier is waiting in the wrong place to speak to Magnum.
After dinner the Brigadier turns in for the night but is actually oustide in the grounds between the main house and the tennis courts. In the series, Magnum's quarters (the guest house) is supposedly on the otherside of the main house, NOT in the direction of the tennis courts. So technically the Brigadier is waiting in the wrong place to speak to Magnum.
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This is one of my FAVORITE episodes! We're back to the more action-packed adventure. I like that we get a glimpse into the military pasts of both Thomas and Higgins. I like that it's Thomas...not the US agents, or the English General or the SAS team...that figures it out. To me, this episode is one of the best EXAMPLES of why Thomas retired from the Navy. His common sense and practical knowledge makes all of the military BS intolerable.
Lots of bonding between the characters in this one. It's the first time that Higgins expresses concern for Magnum...glad that he's all right after the SAS guys shoot Sampson. It's also one of the first times that Higgins "gets it" that Thomas...although he doesn't approve of his lifestyle or his methods...gets the job done. On the other hand, Magnum sticks up for Higgins when the US agents don't want to talk in front of him and, of course, saves his life. I like the interaction between Thomas and TC concerning the dinner jacket...love TC's laugh whe Thomas says "I owe you one!" I like Rick cooking for Thomas because he knows how bad he's feeling about Mandy's death. And I like that , even though she's "the bad guy" Thomas mourns for Mandy. There's that good heart again.
It's probably the first time anyone has worn jeans with a dinner jacket, too, but TM looks good in ANYTHING and I'm guessing that there's a lot of men out there who were happy to have confirmation that it's OK to be comfortable!
My favorite lines in this episode are:
Brigadier General Ffolkes: I thought we disposed of our man last night, Magnum. I suppose we missed somebody.
Thomas: It was the girl, Brigidier, and your men didn't miss her.
Wonderful play on words!
Lots of bonding between the characters in this one. It's the first time that Higgins expresses concern for Magnum...glad that he's all right after the SAS guys shoot Sampson. It's also one of the first times that Higgins "gets it" that Thomas...although he doesn't approve of his lifestyle or his methods...gets the job done. On the other hand, Magnum sticks up for Higgins when the US agents don't want to talk in front of him and, of course, saves his life. I like the interaction between Thomas and TC concerning the dinner jacket...love TC's laugh whe Thomas says "I owe you one!" I like Rick cooking for Thomas because he knows how bad he's feeling about Mandy's death. And I like that , even though she's "the bad guy" Thomas mourns for Mandy. There's that good heart again.
It's probably the first time anyone has worn jeans with a dinner jacket, too, but TM looks good in ANYTHING and I'm guessing that there's a lot of men out there who were happy to have confirmation that it's OK to be comfortable!
My favorite lines in this episode are:
Brigadier General Ffolkes: I thought we disposed of our man last night, Magnum. I suppose we missed somebody.
Thomas: It was the girl, Brigidier, and your men didn't miss her.
Wonderful play on words!
Isn't the ocean beautiful at sunset? So soft....so peaceful...so romantic!
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I was really looking forward to reviewing this one; it’s a really good episode.
[Rating: 9, Fine example]
A British Army commander is staying at Robin's Nest after capturing some IRA members who are due to go on trial, and risks a retaliation killing. Magnum is hired by two intelligence agents to covertly protect to commander. A very good episode...
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After the disappointing 'Thank Heaven for Little Girls and Big Ones Too', things return to form with this very good episode. In fact, it would have made a far better follow-up to 'China Doll' in my opinion.
The episode opens with some genuine IRA attack footage, accompanied by a very dodgy Irish news voiceover. Although the series was generally very good with British accents (just listen to Higgins), when it came to Irish on this one they seemed to have trouble, as it doesn't sound all that convincing at all to me.
Anyway, I find the story to be a very good one, and one that leaves you guessing throughout. It has some very good scenes, and all of the cast give good performances. I particularly like the scene where Magnum sticks up for Higgins. Although he had saved Higgins' job (and butt) in the Pilot by giving a good feedback report to Robin Masters, this is the first real time that Magnum stands up for Higgins.
This episode is also the first time that we see Richard Johnson as Brigadier Alistair Ffolks, who would return in the enjoyable third season finale 'Faith and Begorrah'.
Although I never saw this episode on ITV (in the U.K.) originally, I'd imagine it was sometimes edited or skipped completely due to the IRA themes, something that ITV often shied away from.
[Spoiler] When this episode was broadcast on Channel 5 in 2002, I hadn't ever seen it previously. That day I recorded it (as I did with all episodes) but didn't watch it 'live'; when I switched on to turn my video recorder off, I saw the shot on the end credits of Mandy holding the gun on Magnum, giving the whole story away. D'oh! But even so, it was a very good story to watch, and even after you know who the real villain is, it is one of those episodes that stands up well to repeat viewings. [End of spoiler]
All-in-all, a very good episode, and one that is a good showcase for the generally high quality of the first season.
The only thing that slightly stops it from getting an even higher rating from me is that the middle of the story (investigating the possible assassin's apartment, etc.) does verge on getting a little 'routine' at points, but thankfully soon picks up again. Still, a great ep.
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Other notes, bloopers, etc.
Most of the things that I spotted on this episode (first sighting of the GMC, Magnum’s first on-screen cigar, the way out timing on the bomb, etc.) have already been mentioned. But here are a couple extra:
* The opening trailer, previewing the episode, opens with a shot of T.C.’s helicopter flying along the coast. T.C.’s helicopter is not seen in the episode proper.
* When Magnum arrives back from his case, finds the gates locked, goes over the wall, etc., the music that plays is a complete version of what would become the standard theme for the opening trailers to episodes, starting with the next episode, ‘Skin Deep’. This theme would be re-recorded several times as such; this instance here is the only time that it is heard in full.
* Although we had seen Rick’s office (first incarnation) and part of the King Kamehameha Club in ‘China Doll’, this is the first time that we see the interior of the main club (again, first incarnation).
* It is also the first time that Magnum wears his green vest, something that would be seen in MANY future episodes.
* It’s already been covered, but I won’t go into the bomb in the Audi – as well as having light when seen from inside the tank when it should be dark (but this is acceptable for means of storytelling), the clock is all over the place. The five minute countdown takes 5:47!
Also, to comment on ‘flubs’ (i.e. bloopers), I don’t see them as a bad thing. I only generally spot them from re-watching episodes MANY times, which is a testament to just how re-watchable the series is. Some lesser shows I’d watch once and not give them a second thought.
[Rating: 9, Fine example]
A British Army commander is staying at Robin's Nest after capturing some IRA members who are due to go on trial, and risks a retaliation killing. Magnum is hired by two intelligence agents to covertly protect to commander. A very good episode...
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After the disappointing 'Thank Heaven for Little Girls and Big Ones Too', things return to form with this very good episode. In fact, it would have made a far better follow-up to 'China Doll' in my opinion.
The episode opens with some genuine IRA attack footage, accompanied by a very dodgy Irish news voiceover. Although the series was generally very good with British accents (just listen to Higgins), when it came to Irish on this one they seemed to have trouble, as it doesn't sound all that convincing at all to me.
Anyway, I find the story to be a very good one, and one that leaves you guessing throughout. It has some very good scenes, and all of the cast give good performances. I particularly like the scene where Magnum sticks up for Higgins. Although he had saved Higgins' job (and butt) in the Pilot by giving a good feedback report to Robin Masters, this is the first real time that Magnum stands up for Higgins.
This episode is also the first time that we see Richard Johnson as Brigadier Alistair Ffolks, who would return in the enjoyable third season finale 'Faith and Begorrah'.
Although I never saw this episode on ITV (in the U.K.) originally, I'd imagine it was sometimes edited or skipped completely due to the IRA themes, something that ITV often shied away from.
[Spoiler] When this episode was broadcast on Channel 5 in 2002, I hadn't ever seen it previously. That day I recorded it (as I did with all episodes) but didn't watch it 'live'; when I switched on to turn my video recorder off, I saw the shot on the end credits of Mandy holding the gun on Magnum, giving the whole story away. D'oh! But even so, it was a very good story to watch, and even after you know who the real villain is, it is one of those episodes that stands up well to repeat viewings. [End of spoiler]
All-in-all, a very good episode, and one that is a good showcase for the generally high quality of the first season.
The only thing that slightly stops it from getting an even higher rating from me is that the middle of the story (investigating the possible assassin's apartment, etc.) does verge on getting a little 'routine' at points, but thankfully soon picks up again. Still, a great ep.
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Other notes, bloopers, etc.
Most of the things that I spotted on this episode (first sighting of the GMC, Magnum’s first on-screen cigar, the way out timing on the bomb, etc.) have already been mentioned. But here are a couple extra:
* The opening trailer, previewing the episode, opens with a shot of T.C.’s helicopter flying along the coast. T.C.’s helicopter is not seen in the episode proper.
* When Magnum arrives back from his case, finds the gates locked, goes over the wall, etc., the music that plays is a complete version of what would become the standard theme for the opening trailers to episodes, starting with the next episode, ‘Skin Deep’. This theme would be re-recorded several times as such; this instance here is the only time that it is heard in full.
* Although we had seen Rick’s office (first incarnation) and part of the King Kamehameha Club in ‘China Doll’, this is the first time that we see the interior of the main club (again, first incarnation).
* It is also the first time that Magnum wears his green vest, something that would be seen in MANY future episodes.
* It’s already been covered, but I won’t go into the bomb in the Audi – as well as having light when seen from inside the tank when it should be dark (but this is acceptable for means of storytelling), the clock is all over the place. The five minute countdown takes 5:47!
Also, to comment on ‘flubs’ (i.e. bloopers), I don’t see them as a bad thing. I only generally spot them from re-watching episodes MANY times, which is a testament to just how re-watchable the series is. Some lesser shows I’d watch once and not give them a second thought.
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Rutledal wrote:I see you mention "Kengi the silent gardner" in the episode notes. Could you perhaps put up a screenshot of Kengi from one of his appearances?
Nice! Never noticed that before.Jay-Firestorm wrote:When Magnum arrives back from his case, finds the gates locked, goes over the wall, etc., the music that plays is a complete version of what would become the standard theme for the opening trailers to episodes, starting with the next episode, ‘Skin Deep’. This theme would be re-recorded several times as such; this instance here is the only time that it is heard in full.
Higgins: It's not a scratch! It's a bloody gouge!
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