Never Again ... Never Again (1.7)

[IslandHopper]

Thanks James for reminding me of the other women who have been killed on the show. I don't know how I forgot about Diane, Wendy and Legs.

Doc is right about Katrina. She wasn't killed, Magnum merely walked up to her and coaxed the gun from her. She wasn't even hurt despite having shot Higgins earlier in the episode.

As far as Lena is concerned, I do believe that Magnum shot and killed her despite the fact that there was no gunshot heard. As I mentioned, I just don't think the director wanted to portray her death in detail. It wasn't necessary as she seemed ready to die from her facial expressions and demeanor. The fact that we don't see her die is reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock.

[J.J. Walters]

Chalk up another flub for James! Not sure why I thought Magnum shot Katrina!

In any event, I think you are right about the Magnum/Lena scene IH. The denouement also seems to support the idea that Magnum had to have killed her - He's clearly upset and Higgins' Nuremburg Trials speech.

[Doc Ibold]

Looking over all the arguments to support the "Magnum shot Lena" theory, I'm going to have to agree.

Watched that scene in particular and Lena's face pretty much said she wasn't going quietly, even more so since Saul was dead.

As for the "flub", James, don't worry about it. You have so much knowledge about the show, its nuts!

Besides, whenever you go into your chess explanations, I stare at the screen a little bit, get confused, and then go to my little "happy place" in my mind.

[rubber chicken]

Here's the home of Sol & Lena Greenberg, just a few blocks from the Hawaii Film Studio.


Saul's Shirt Shop - Expert Tailering (3573 Waialae Avenue - seventh one from the building to the right of the basketball courts).


The Makani Kai Marina is where Sol was held on the boat.

[J.J. Walters]

Cool, thanks RC!

Do I want to know how you found Saul and Lena's house? No, it's probably best you didn't tell me!

[rubber chicken]

It was actually pretty easy. You can catch a glimpse of the street sign in one shot, for the street to the left of the picture, but not the cross street. So I went along the known street looking for recognizable features seen in the show.

One I'm having trouble with though is Agatha Chumley's house. It's seen twice in Echoes of the Mind part 2, but there's only one shot to really place it. It looks like it's in a valley in north east Honolulu but I haven't been able to find it. Is her house seen in any other episodes?

[Doc Ibold]

As far as I can remember, this is the only time we see Agatha's home.

[sophia]

In Mad Dogs and Englishmen ,TM goes to Agatha's house and they have tea in her yard. I think there are scenes of the city behind them.
This is when TM ask Agatha is she knows why Higgins left.
Hope it helps in your search.

[Doc Ibold]

In Mad Dogs and Englishmen ,TM goes to Agatha's house and they have tea in her yard. I think there are scenes of the city behind them.
This is when TM ask Agatha is she knows why Higgins left.
Hope it helps in your search.

Thats right Sophia. Forgot about that one!

[rubber chicken]

Yep, thanks so much sophia! I still haven't located it yet though. I'm starting to wonder if the house has been torn down and rebuilt, but that probably isn't likely.

Right now I'm thinking the gazebo tea scene isn't at the real life house location, but there's a nice shot of Agatha's house which has helped me picture it better. Thanks again.

I don't suppose her house is seen in season eight? If anyone finds that it is please let me know.

[eeyore]

I don't remember her being shot either, I remember it just the way you described.

[Carol the Dabbler]

This may not be exactly a flub, but it sure is weird:

Every time that Magnum, et al. are at the hospital, the same three people are paged over the PA, each time in exactly the same way. This is true even when Magnum goes back late at night to break into Kessler's office.

Sorry I didn't make a note of the names and the paging dialog for each -- I hadn't come across this site yet when we watched that episode -- but it got to be really hilarious!

[IslandHopper]

I agree CTD. Some of the pages at different locations (airport, hospital, hotels, etc.) are hilarious. Some of the funnier pages I remember are, "paging Dr. Einstein" (Under World-while at a nuclear physicists convention at a hotel); "paging Harry 'The Shadow' Martini, paging Harry Martini" (The Return of Luther Gillis).

[Carol the Dabbler]

Hey, James, if you're going to quote me in the episode notes, then I figure I'd better be more specific! I went back and took notes this time.

The first time Magnum, et al., are at the hospital, here's everything that comes over the P.A.:

"Janet Clark, please report to Maternity. Janet Clark." [3 times]

"Dr. Sigapelli to Cardiology. Dr. Sigapelli." [4 times]

"Dr. Haywood, you're wanted in Pediatrics. Dr. Haywood to Pediatrics." [3 times]

ADDED TO CLARIFY: They don't page Janet Clark three times, then Dr. Sigapelli four times, and finally Dr. Haywood three times -- they mix them up over the course of a long sequence of in-the-hospital scenes.

Now, it's not implausible that some pages would need to be repeated. (Still, it seems odd that only three different people are paged, and none of them ever seems to respond.)

Then Magnum goes back to the hospital that night and sneaks into Dr. Kessler's office. While he's in the hallway, "Nurse Emory" is paged twice (a refreshing change of pace). But then while he's searching the office, one can hear the faint sound of Janet Clark being paged twice more!

None of the above surnames appears in the closing credits, by the way.

[J.J. Walters]

Heh, thanks Carol. I'm always down for the detail.

It seems that "Janet Clark" never made it to the Maternity ward. I hope she didn't run across Lena at the end of some dark corridor!