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Just like in Mayberry.Steve wrote:Pahonu wrote:
I'm with you, my wife of 26 years is African American and we have a 21 year old son with hair like Bruno Mars. I have spent many a day in black barbershops that are so much more than a place to get a cut, but are community centers, comedy clubs and just overall pillars of the black community......(Plus did anyone notice Roger is wearing Dashiki, he is the last person to question his commitment)
Agreed!I fully agree also. Let's enjoy some things rather than constantly criticize.
I'm so sick and tired that a thread like this even became a race discussion.N1095A wrote:I really don't know what race has to do with anything. The new T.C. can't hold a candle to Roger's T.C. and for Roger to appear in the new version to me is sacrilege.
Not sure why you chose that quote, N1095A didn't bring up race. The quote was a response to Chris 109.T.Q. wrote:I'm so sick and tired that a thread like this even became a race discussion.N1095A wrote:I really don't know what race has to do with anything. The new T.C. can't hold a candle to Roger's T.C. and for Roger to appear in the new version to me is sacrilege.
I read your post. Never even thought for a second about colour.
We have a sickness in today's society. It's sad actually.
Yes, I’m aware of the “not seeing colour” somehow being construed as being racist in itself argument. Isn’t 2019 wonderful?Pahonu wrote:Not sure why you chose that quote, N1095A didn't bring up race. The quote was a response to Chris 109.T.Q. wrote:I'm so sick and tired that a thread like this even became a race discussion.N1095A wrote:I really don't know what race has to do with anything. The new T.C. can't hold a candle to Roger's T.C. and for Roger to appear in the new version to me is sacrilege.
I read your post. Never even thought for a second about colour.
We have a sickness in today's society. It's sad actually.
I'm also going to add, and this will probably not be popular, but ignoring race is also not a reasonable position in a society that still has significant racial inequalities. Taking the position of not seeing color might be acceptable all other things being equal in society, but they are not. Being a part of a biracial family I see these inequalities all too often.
I wasn't arguing that "not seeing color" equates to racism. I was pointing out that ignoring that there are racial inequalities in society by taking the position of "I don't see color" does nothing to improve the situation. The late Elie Weisel in his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize made a plea to humanity in his case about his experience in the Holocaust. His argument was basic and applies here. There are three positions that can be taken with regards to injustice. One can support and participate in it, condemn and fight against it, or ignore it and remain silent. The problem is that silence always benefits the perpetrator, never the victim.T.Q. wrote:Yes, I’m aware of the “not seeing colour” somehow being construed as being racist in itself argument. Isn’t 2019 wonderful?Pahonu wrote:Not sure why you chose that quote, N1095A didn't bring up race. The quote was a response to Chris 109.T.Q. wrote: I'm so sick and tired that a thread like this even became a race discussion.
I read your post. Never even thought for a second about colour.
We have a sickness in today's society. It's sad actually.
I'm also going to add, and this will probably not be popular, but ignoring race is also not a reasonable position in a society that still has significant racial inequalities. Taking the position of not seeing color might be acceptable all other things being equal in society, but they are not. Being a part of a biracial family I see these inequalities all too often.
How race relates in any way whatsoever to a post about Roger Mosley making a cameo in a television show though still remains beyond me.
Guess I need to reprogram my brain to think of ‘inequalities’ (real or perceived) everytime I see a black person now.
Gonna become a full time job for me since I live in the Bahamas. Guess I gotta do it though just to prove I’m a woke ‘privileged’ white dude.
Macho Taco wrote:The real issue for me isn’t Roger appearing as a barber. My issue is
that the re-boot has created nothing but one-dimensional characters who serve only to back up TM. New TC and new Rick have done nothing interesting, nor do we even get a glimpse of their lives outside of TMs cases. Has new TC even been shown giving a tour yet? With all that could be done with Roger’s appearance, even as a barber, my hunch is the writers will botch this up big time. In other words, he will have one or two lines and that’s it. Hope I’m wrong...
Macho Taco wrote:The real issue for me isn’t Roger appearing as a barber. My issue is
that the re-boot has created nothing but one-dimensional characters who serve only to back up TM. New TC and new Rick have done nothing interesting, nor do we even get a glimpse of their lives outside of TMs cases. Has new TC even been shown giving a tour yet? With all that could be done with Roger’s appearance, even as a barber, my hunch is the writers will botch this up big time. In other words, he will have one or two lines and that’s it. Hope I’m wrong...
I agree. The characters on the original show were deeply drawn right from the start, from the pilot episode. Meanwhile the new series is past the midpoint of the season and they're all still just cardboard cutouts.Bondtoys.de wrote:Macho Taco wrote:The real issue for me isn’t Roger appearing as a barber. My issue is
that the re-boot has created nothing but one-dimensional characters who serve only to back up TM. New TC and new Rick have done nothing interesting, nor do we even get a glimpse of their lives outside of TMs cases. Has new TC even been shown giving a tour yet? With all that could be done with Roger’s appearance, even as a barber, my hunch is the writers will botch this up big time. In other words, he will have one or two lines and that’s it. Hope I’m wrong...
One-dimensional?
Maybe you want to rewatch season 1 of the original series and see how "deep" TC, Rick and Higgins are drawn.
What we correctly appreciate in terms of deepness of character and the feeling of friendship has imo a lot to do with the fact that we could see all this progressing over 8 years.
LOL!T.Q. wrote: Yes, I’m aware of the “not seeing colour” somehow being construed as being racist in itself argument. Isn’t 2019 wonderful?
How race relates in any way whatsoever to a post about Roger Mosley making a cameo in a television show though still remains beyond me.
Guess I need to reprogram my brain to think of ‘inequalities’ (real or perceived) everytime I see a black person now.
Gonna become a full time job for me since I live in the Bahamas. Guess I gotta do it though just to prove I’m a woke ‘privileged’ white dude.
Don't worry about it, T.Q. You can't win these days. If you don't see color then you're insensitive and thus racist, if you do see color then you're a bigot and thus racist. It's a catch-22! My motto is "to thine own self be true". Be happy who you are and don't worry what others think. If they have a problem with you then it's their problem. I am who I am, and I make no apologies for it. I don't kill, I don't steal, I don't abuse. I have nothing to apologize for or feel bad about.
I agree with you Ivan, from the Pilot epsiode, and then China Doll, No Need to Know . . . the list goes on of eary episodes that show the depth the supporting characters have. The show was well outlined and each character seemed like their inrerconnected relationships were real and coming from a place you understood. We didn't need to get to know how these guys relared to each other, it was right there to see and feel - from the writing to the abilities of the actors.IvanTheTerrible wrote:I agree. The characters on the original show were deeply drawn right from the start, from the pilot episode. Meanwhile the new series is past the midpoint of the season and they're all still just cardboard cutouts.Bondtoys.de wrote:Macho Taco wrote:The real issue for me isn’t Roger appearing as a barber. My issue is
that the re-boot has created nothing but one-dimensional characters who serve only to back up TM. New TC and new Rick have done nothing interesting, nor do we even get a glimpse of their lives outside of TMs cases. Has new TC even been shown giving a tour yet? With all that could be done with Roger’s appearance, even as a barber, my hunch is the writers will botch this up big time. In other words, he will have one or two lines and that’s it. Hope I’m wrong...
One-dimensional?
Maybe you want to rewatch season 1 of the original series and see how "deep" TC, Rick and Higgins are drawn.
What we correctly appreciate in terms of deepness of character and the feeling of friendship has imo a lot to do with the fact that we could see all this progressing over 8 years.
Conch,ConchRepublican wrote:[quote
I agree with you Ivan, from the Pilot episode, and then China Doll, No Need to Know . . . the list goes on of early episodes that show the depth the supporting characters have. The show was well outlined and each character seemed like their interconnected relationships were real and coming from a place you understood. We didn't need to get to know how these guys related to each other, it was right there to see and feel - from the writing to the abilities of the actors.
