Mannix

[Luther's nephew Dobie]

Mannix “predicted” two future film classics:
To Kill a Memory (S6; Oct 29, 1972) is a bizarre, delightfully hallucinatory precursor to Apocalypse Now. This episode’s guest star, Martin Sheen, plays a Vietnam veteran in what could be a dress rehearsal for the Francis Ford Coppola film. Sheen's "Alex Lachlan" character even has a scene in which he's lying down and looking vacantly at the ceiling while blearily reciting dialogue. (Yes, I know Apocalypse Now is based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad).
The Empty Tower (S8; Feb 16, 1975) is a precursor to Die Hard, with Joe Mannix conducting actions against a heist gang who are robbing every office in an empty skyscraper. Well directed by Bill Bixby. It's unlikely--though not impossible--that the Die Hard producers ripped off this episode since S8 of Mannix is said to have never been aired in syndication.
I really enjoy seasons 6-8 the most, but the first year is fantastic, too. Actually, I like every season save for season 5, which, ironically, was the show’s highest rated season!

Did you mean at the time Die Hard was released - 1988 - season eight of Mannix wasn't being rerun? Or it has never been in syndication?
Along with the rest of season 8, "The Empty Tower" can be seen on MeTV.
Do you know if Mannix and Die Hard were produced by the same studio?
Because Hollywood has a history of poaching properties it already owns. For instance there is an episode of Cheyenne that was a shameless
remake of the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Now don't start chucking rocks at me fans of classic movies, but it was good, really good!
The New Mike Hammer with Stacy Keach raided the vaults to remake some of the greatest film noir ever for it's episodes.
Home Alone brazenly stole from the Bonanza episode "Walter and the Outlaws" and it's sequel episode.

[Little Garwood]

Did you mean at the time Die Hard was released - 1988 - season eight of Mannix wasn't being rerun?

Mannix S8 had not been in syndication in the years before, during, and probably not for some years after Die Hard’s release.

Do you know if Mannix and Die Hard were produced by the same studio?

Mannix was a Desilu and later Paramount production. Die Hard was 20th Century Fox. Apocalypse Now was produced by Coppola’s American Zoetrope.

“He's out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct. And he is still in the field commanding troops.”

“Terminate with extreme prejudice.”

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Mannix “predicted” two future film classics:

To Kill a Memory (S6; Oct 29, 1972) is a bizarre, delightfully hallucinatory precursor to Apocalypse Now. This episode’s guest star, Martin Sheen, plays a Vietnam veteran in what could be a dress rehearsal for the Francis Ford Coppola film. Sheen's "Alex Lachlan" character even has a scene in which he's lying down and looking vacantly at the ceiling while blearily reciting dialogue. (Yes, I know Apocalypse Now is based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad).

The Empty Tower (S8; Feb 16, 1975) is a precursor to Die Hard, with Joe Mannix conducting actions against a heist gang who are robbing every office in an empty skyscraper. Well directed by Bill Bixby. It's unlikely--though not impossible--that the Die Hard producers ripped off this episode since S8 of Mannix is said to have never been aired in syndication.

I really enjoy seasons 6-8 the most, but the first year is fantastic, too. Actually, I like every season save for season 5, which, ironically, was the show’s highest rated season!

"The Empty Tower" is a superb episode! Of course I also think DIE HARD is the greatest action movie of all time. So naturally I would love this episode. Bill Bixby's fall at the end was pretty hair-raising too, especially for mid-70s television. Of course Hans Gruber also fell off the skyscraper so the similarities keep mounting. It's the only episode from season 8 that I've seen but it might just be the greatest MANNIX episode that I've seen.

There was also the skiing episode "Cold Trail" which was fantastic. I love the slopes and I do ski so that alone piqued my interests. But the entire storyline was great and then there was the car chase to end all car chases. Brilliant!

The season 2 opener with the deaf-mute witness is another of my very favorites. Also a big fan of the pilot which has a movie quality feel to it, especially towards the end in that tower/staircase thingy where Mannix is trying to rescue Barbara Anderson.

The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

[Luther's nephew Dobie]

Mannix “predicted” two future film classics:

To Kill a Memory (S6; Oct 29, 1972) is a bizarre, delightfully hallucinatory precursor to Apocalypse Now. This episode’s guest star, Martin Sheen, plays a Vietnam veteran in what could be a dress rehearsal for the Francis Ford Coppola film. Sheen's "Alex Lachlan" character even has a scene in which he's lying down and looking vacantly at the ceiling while blearily reciting dialogue. (Yes, I know Apocalypse Now is based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad).

The Empty Tower (S8; Feb 16, 1975) is a precursor to Die Hard, with Joe Mannix conducting actions against a heist gang who are robbing every office in an empty skyscraper. Well directed by Bill Bixby. It's unlikely--though not impossible--that the Die Hard producers ripped off this episode since S8 of Mannix is said to have never been aired in syndication.

I really enjoy seasons 6-8 the most, but the first year is fantastic, too. Actually, I like every season save for season 5, which, ironically, was the show’s highest rated season!

"The Empty Tower" is a superb episode! Of course I also think DIE HARD is the greatest action movie of all time. So naturally I would love this episode. Bill Bixby's fall at the end was pretty hair-raising too, especially for mid-70s television. Of course Hans Gruber also fell off the skyscraper so the similarities keep mounting. It's the only episode from season 8 that I've seen but it might just be the greatest MANNIX episode that I've seen.
There was also the skiing episode "Cold Trail" which was fantastic. I love the slopes and I do ski so that alone piqued my interests. But the entire storyline was great and then there was the car chase to end all car chases. Brilliant!
The season 2 opener with the deaf-mute witness is another of my very favorites. Also a big fan of the pilot which has a movie quality feel to it, especially towards the end in that tower/staircase thingy where Mannix is trying to rescue Barbara Anderson.
The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

Ivan the Terrible you ain't, most excellent post. The deaf mute episode was awesome. The end credits mention the woman lead is from a LA theater company for the deaf. It's too bad
she didn't get more parts on TV, but even now you don't see deaf people on screen. An aside that I think is interesting. I am in the Lions, we help the Blind and are involved in sight conservation.
When you ask a Blind person who is also deaf which sense they would rather have restored, almost every single one prefers to have their hearing restored. They feel more part of things, you can joke
and hear your loved ones voices and more easily share your wants, hear music, give your opinions, be HEARD in every way, you no longer feel like "the other", you can participate.
As for Mannix and the Korean vets, you gave me a good laugh, at least none were in a dress like Corporal Klinger.

[Pahonu]

Mannix “predicted” two future film classics:

To Kill a Memory (S6; Oct 29, 1972) is a bizarre, delightfully hallucinatory precursor to Apocalypse Now. This episode’s guest star, Martin Sheen, plays a Vietnam veteran in what could be a dress rehearsal for the Francis Ford Coppola film. Sheen's "Alex Lachlan" character even has a scene in which he's lying down and looking vacantly at the ceiling while blearily reciting dialogue. (Yes, I know Apocalypse Now is based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad).

The Empty Tower (S8; Feb 16, 1975) is a precursor to Die Hard, with Joe Mannix conducting actions against a heist gang who are robbing every office in an empty skyscraper. Well directed by Bill Bixby. It's unlikely--though not impossible--that the Die Hard producers ripped off this episode since S8 of Mannix is said to have never been aired in syndication.

I really enjoy seasons 6-8 the most, but the first year is fantastic, too. Actually, I like every season save for season 5, which, ironically, was the show’s highest rated season!

"The Empty Tower" is a superb episode! Of course I also think DIE HARD is the greatest action movie of all time. So naturally I would love this episode. Bill Bixby's fall at the end was pretty hair-raising too, especially for mid-70s television. Of course Hans Gruber also fell off the skyscraper so the similarities keep mounting. It's the only episode from season 8 that I've seen but it might just be the greatest MANNIX episode that I've seen.
There was also the skiing episode "Cold Trail" which was fantastic. I love the slopes and I do ski so that alone piqued my interests. But the entire storyline was great and then there was the car chase to end all car chases. Brilliant!
The season 2 opener with the deaf-mute witness is another of my very favorites. Also a big fan of the pilot which has a movie quality feel to it, especially towards the end in that tower/staircase thingy where Mannix is trying to rescue Barbara Anderson.
The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

Ivan the Terrible you ain't, most excellent post. The deaf mute episode was awesome. The end credits mention the woman lead is from a LA theater company for the deaf. It's too bad
she didn't get more parts on TV, but even now you don't see deaf people on screen. An aside that I think is interesting. I am in the Lions, we help the Blind and are involved in sight conservation.
When you ask a Blind person who is also deaf which sense they would rather have restored, almost every single one prefers to have their hearing restored. They feel more part of things, you can joke
and hear your loved ones voices and more easily share your wants, hear music, give your opinions, be HEARD in every way, you no longer feel like "the other", you can participate.
As for Mannix and the Korean vets, you gave me a good laugh, at least none were in a dress like Corporal Klinger.

Hey Dobie,

As you’re in the Lions Club, I have a question I’ve wanted to ask a member for quite some time. When I was in high school in the 80’s, an elderly neighbor of ours told me that he had participated in the drafting of the UN Charter in San Francisco as a member of the Lions! Beyond being super impressed then, and perhaps more so today as a US History teacher, I was wondering if you had any information about this? I haven’t thought about this in many years but thought I’d ask.

[Little Garwood]

I sincerely hope that the “UN Charter-Lions Club” discussion can be had in its own thread.

Here are two of my favorite writeups about Mannix. The first is from the WaPo article that may very well have been responsible for getting Mannix on DVD:

”Mannix was the last of a certain type of American manhood, circa early '70s. He wore a tie and a wistful smile. He did not know doubt but was a friend of irony. He didn't worry about giving women "their space," and he wasn't "in touch with his feelings." He was kind to small dogs, little old ladies, and femmes fatales in deep trouble and short skirts.

“He drove too fast, drank too much and smoked like he got paid for it. He slugged people and shot guys and never got pulled in by the cops. "The body count, even in the first few minutes of the show, could sometimes be appalling," notes one television reference guide. This was the era of "Who loves ya, baby?" "Book 'em, Danno!" and "This tape will self-destruct in five seconds."

"Mannix was great, just great -- one of the last unapologetically masculine and completely unrealistic American icons, at least in the myths we tell ourselves on television. Cops and detectives got cute or complicated later on, and there really hasn't been much on television like it since.

"It debuted at a turbulent time in American culture, 1967, and Joe Mannix was pretty much a modernized Lone Ranger -- no wife, no kids, no pets, no political views, no close friends. He was hip enough to listen to jazz and to mock himself as "a hard- boiled detective in the classical tradition," but traditional enough to wear a coat and tie and to have good manners."
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The second is by DVDTalk reviewer Paul Mavis, whose words could very well serve as my own “Mannix Manifesto.” Mr. Mavis perfctly expresses his affection for the late-60s-to-mid-70s TV action show in his review for Mannix Season Seven:

“I've written reviews for the past four seasons of Mannix (please click here to read those), and since stylistically (as always) this seventh season differs not at all from previous outings (the producers stay remarkably consistent with the "Mannix formula"), I'm not going to go over the same ground again here.

“After all...who's out there reading these old TV reviews, anyway? Is it all the Pendleton shirts-and-sandals kids who drive around in their hot rods listening to their "hey, baby!" jazz music, hanging out at the malt shop discussing Archer and Justified? Is it the young, crew-cutted technocrats with their slide rulers and rocket fuel tabulating machines, arguing over Tosh.0?

“Is it that college girl on summer break down the street who knows exactly what she's doing to all the guys in the neighborhood when she keeps insisting on washing her new Camaro in her string bikini? Hell, no; they wouldn't know Joe Mannix if he slammed into them with his customized Challenger 360.”

“No, Mannix the show, Mannix the gestalt, Mannix the lifestyle, is strictly for the over 35-set who grew up with aerials on their roofs, nylon underwear, metal lunch boxes, and only three TV networks.

“We already know what Mannix is all about. It's about TV's vision of the American "good life" in whacked-out, sun-bleached SoCal, circa 1974: Motor City muscle cars smashing into each other with abandon; weekend fishing trips that inevitably lead to assassination attempts; polyester sports jackets strong enough to deflect a .38 caliber bullet; women―beautiful women―who are attracted to macho Armenian musk like moths to a flame; old Army/college/casual acquaintance/passers-by on the street, all of whom bear a psychotic, violent grudge against Joe.

"And of course, vicious daily assaults, perpetrated year after year upon the unyielding body of Joe Mannix―assaults that would cripple a normal man inside a week. That's what Mannix is all about, kids. The particulars of the plots are merely distractions."

[Pahonu]

Sorry about the UN question!
I’ve just wondered about it for a long time.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

I sincerely hope that the “UN Charter-Lions Club” discussion can be had in its own thread.

Here are two of my favorite writeups about Mannix. The first is from the WaPo article that may very well have been responsible for getting Mannix on DVD:

”Mannix was the last of a certain type of American manhood, circa early '70s. He wore a tie and a wistful smile. He did not know doubt but was a friend of irony. He didn't worry about giving women "their space," and he wasn't "in touch with his feelings." He was kind to small dogs, little old ladies, and femmes fatales in deep trouble and short skirts.

“He drove too fast, drank too much and smoked like he got paid for it. He slugged people and shot guys and never got pulled in by the cops. "The body count, even in the first few minutes of the show, could sometimes be appalling," notes one television reference guide. This was the era of "Who loves ya, baby?" "Book 'em, Danno!" and "This tape will self-destruct in five seconds."

"Mannix was great, just great -- one of the last unapologetically masculine and completely unrealistic American icons, at least in the myths we tell ourselves on television. Cops and detectives got cute or complicated later on, and there really hasn't been much on television like it since.

"It debuted at a turbulent time in American culture, 1967, and Joe Mannix was pretty much a modernized Lone Ranger -- no wife, no kids, no pets, no political views, no close friends. He was hip enough to listen to jazz and to mock himself as "a hard- boiled detective in the classical tradition," but traditional enough to wear a coat and tie and to have good manners."
—————————————-



The second is by DVDTalk reviewer Paul Mavis, whose words could very well serve as my own “Mannix Manifesto.” Mr. Mavis perfctly expresses his affection for the late-60s-to-mid-70s TV action show in his review for Mannix Season Seven:

“I've written reviews for the past four seasons of Mannix (please click here to read those), and since stylistically (as always) this seventh season differs not at all from previous outings (the producers stay remarkably consistent with the "Mannix formula"), I'm not going to go over the same ground again here.

“After all...who's out there reading these old TV reviews, anyway? Is it all the Pendleton shirts-and-sandals kids who drive around in their hot rods listening to their "hey, baby!" jazz music, hanging out at the malt shop discussing Archer and Justified? Is it the young, crew-cutted technocrats with their slide rulers and rocket fuel tabulating machines, arguing over Tosh.0?

“Is it that college girl on summer break down the street who knows exactly what she's doing to all the guys in the neighborhood when she keeps insisting on washing her new Camaro in her string bikini? Hell, no; they wouldn't know Joe Mannix if he slammed into them with his customized Challenger 360.”

“No, Mannix the show, Mannix the gestalt, Mannix the lifestyle, is strictly for the over 35-set who grew up with aerials on their roofs, nylon underwear, metal lunch boxes, and only three TV networks.

“We already know what Mannix is all about. It's about TV's vision of the American "good life" in whacked-out, sun-bleached SoCal, circa 1974: Motor City muscle cars smashing into each other with abandon; weekend fishing trips that inevitably lead to assassination attempts; polyester sports jackets strong enough to deflect a .38 caliber bullet; women―beautiful women―who are attracted to macho Armenian musk like moths to a flame; old Army/college/casual acquaintance/passers-by on the street, all of whom bear a psychotic, violent grudge against Joe.

"And of course, vicious daily assaults, perpetrated year after year upon the unyielding body of Joe Mannix―assaults that would cripple a normal man inside a week. That's what Mannix is all about, kids. The particulars of the plots are merely distractions."

That's our Joe Mannix alright!!

Joe and McGarrett must have gone to the same barber. Every season their head of hair got bigger and fuller, the sideburns longer and longer.

[Little Garwood]

That's our Joe Mannix alright!!

Joe and McGarrett must have gone to the same barber. Every season their head of hair got bigger and fuller, the sideburns longer and longer.

That reminds me of an H50 episode…Bait Once, Bait Twice I believe it was—in which McGarrett says he gets his haircut every week! Steve’s barber must merely snip the scissors safely out of range of McGarrett’s “wave”!

[Pahonu]

That's our Joe Mannix alright!!

Joe and McGarrett must have gone to the same barber. Every season their head of hair got bigger and fuller, the sideburns longer and longer.

That reminds me of an H50 episode…Bait Once, Bait Twice I believe it was—in which McGarrett says he gets his haircut every week! Steve’s barber must merely snip the scissors safely out of range of McGarrett’s “wave”!

I recall that line too! His barber really must have just cleaned up the edges.

[Little Garwood]

The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

As much as I love those episodes, every time I watch one I say aloud without fail, “Mannix must have led a platoon of psychopaths during the Korean war!” Mannix had to have been even tougher than Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) in The Dirty Dozen! Only Art Malcolm, Mannix’s police buddy, was even remotely sane.

The only episode that perhaps isn’t so great is S6’s The Man Who Wasn’t There, which was IIRC the last of those “Mannix is pursued by one of his psychopathic troops from Korea” episodes. The final shot of Clu Gulager is one for the (comedic) ages, though.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

That's our Joe Mannix alright!!

Joe and McGarrett must have gone to the same barber. Every season their head of hair got bigger and fuller, the sideburns longer and longer.

That reminds me of an H50 episode…Bait Once, Bait Twice I believe it was—in which McGarrett says he gets his haircut every week! Steve’s barber must merely snip the scissors safely out of range of McGarrett’s “wave”!

Don't mess with the wave!!!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

As much as I love those episodes, every time I watch one I say aloud without fail, “Mannix must have led a platoon of psychopaths during the Korean war!” Mannix had to have been even tougher than Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) in The Dirty Dozen! Only Art Malcolm, Mannix’s police buddy, was even remotely sane.

The only episode that perhaps isn’t so great is S6’s The Man Who Wasn’t There, which was IIRC the last of those “Mannix is pursued by one of his psychopathic troops from Korea” episodes. The final shot of Clu Gulager is one for the (comedic) ages, though.

Recently they had all the MANNIX episodes up on YouTube but they've been taken down now. I wanted to see that Clu Gulager final shot you mentioned. I remember the episode and his maniacal cackle whenever he phones Mannix but don't remember the final shot. Wasn't he somewhere up in the rafters in a boxing arena trying to take a shot at Joe?

So we had Steve Ihnat, Darren McGavin, Clu Gulager as former Korean War psychos that are out to get Mannix. Who else am I missing? I know there's got to be more!

[Pahonu]

The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

As much as I love those episodes, every time I watch one I say aloud without fail, “Mannix must have led a platoon of psychopaths during the Korean war!” Mannix had to have been even tougher than Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) in The Dirty Dozen! Only Art Malcolm, Mannix’s police buddy, was even remotely sane.

The only episode that perhaps isn’t so great is S6’s The Man Who Wasn’t There, which was IIRC the last of those “Mannix is pursued by one of his psychopathic troops from Korea” episodes. The final shot of Clu Gulager is one for the (comedic) ages, though.

Recently they had all the MANNIX episodes up on YouTube but they've been taken down now. I wanted to see that Clu Gulager final shot you mentioned. I remember the episode and his maniacal cackle whenever he phones Mannix but don't remember the final shot. Wasn't he somewhere up in the rafters in a boxing arena trying to take a shot at Joe?

So we had Steve Ihnat, Darren McGavin, Clu Gulager as former Korean War psychos that are out to get Mannix. Who else am I missing? I know there's got to be more!

I believe Mannix is on METV right now in the early am hours along with Cannon and Barnaby Jones.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

The one weird thing about the show is that every season there's some nutcase that served with Mannix in Korea who's out to get him. This makes ZERO sense. Ok, maybe one. Or two, at a real stretch. But as it was it's like Mannix's entire platoon was comprised of psychos who feel they were wronged by Mannix somehow. I understand the need for revenge stories and that's fine - there are so many scenarios you could come up with here. Someone Mannix sent to the slammer, someone who Mannix cut off on the road, someone whose case Mannix lost, someone who hates PI's, whatever. But to go down to that same well of having someone Mannix served with in Korea is not just lazy but stupid.

As much as I love those episodes, every time I watch one I say aloud without fail, “Mannix must have led a platoon of psychopaths during the Korean war!” Mannix had to have been even tougher than Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) in The Dirty Dozen! Only Art Malcolm, Mannix’s police buddy, was even remotely sane.

The only episode that perhaps isn’t so great is S6’s The Man Who Wasn’t There, which was IIRC the last of those “Mannix is pursued by one of his psychopathic troops from Korea” episodes. The final shot of Clu Gulager is one for the (comedic) ages, though.

Recently they had all the MANNIX episodes up on YouTube but they've been taken down now. I wanted to see that Clu Gulager final shot you mentioned. I remember the episode and his maniacal cackle whenever he phones Mannix but don't remember the final shot. Wasn't he somewhere up in the rafters in a boxing arena trying to take a shot at Joe?

So we had Steve Ihnat, Darren McGavin, Clu Gulager as former Korean War psychos that are out to get Mannix. Who else am I missing? I know there's got to be more!

I believe Mannix is on METV right now in the early am hours along with Cannon and Barnaby Jones.

Yep, that it is. And I'm sound asleep by then.