Unfinished Business (8.8)
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Re: Unfinished Business (8.8)
Awesome episode.
Tom Selleck was actually scary in this one.
But wouldn't the car bombing orchestrated by Quong Ki derail the prisoner exchange?
Tom Selleck was actually scary in this one.
But wouldn't the car bombing orchestrated by Quong Ki derail the prisoner exchange?
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Likely not. Looking at it from the government's point of view, men likely affiliated with Ki caused the deaths of two Viet Nam nationals that were under protective custody which the public knew nothing about. Giving Ki back would, potentially, mean the return of hundreds of American POW/MIAs which the public would definately know happened. There's no evidence that the government knew about the tape Magnum had or had seen any similiar tape. Buck and Maggie may have gotten a call from Michelle's widower to let him know what had happened. We don't know for sure they had concrete evidence to link Ki to the assassination like Magnum did.J. Rickley Schneider wrote:Awesome episode.
Tom Selleck was actually scary in this one.
But wouldn't the car bombing orchestrated by Quong Ki derail the prisoner exchange?
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In rewatching this episode, does anyone know the signifigance of the face on the lemons that Magnum used for target practice? It seems really bizarre that he'd draw smiley faces on the lemons when he was this intense through all but the opening scene of the episode.
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Yes! I wondered about that tooSignGuyHPW wrote:In rewatching this episode, does anyone know the signifigance of the face on the lemons that Magnum used for target practice? It seems really bizarre that he'd draw smiley faces on the lemons when he was this intense through all but the opening scene of the episode.
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I just re-watched this very well done Episode - * But I have an (maybe) annoying ex-military observation - the "sound suppressor," Magnum uses would never work with a NATO 7.62 round - That said, a great Rifle choice ... "Buck" Greene (whom Magnum pinched the rifle from ) knew his firearms ...
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I'm watching this episode just now, as I complete my first cycle through my DVD set, and I absolutely loved the scene between Magnum and Higgins toward the beginning of the show, where they were discussing Magnum's grocery list.
Also: it's interesting that the package Magnum received was addressed to somewhere else Honolulu, not to the estate: 1541 Kalakaua Ave.
Also: it's interesting that the package Magnum received was addressed to somewhere else Honolulu, not to the estate: 1541 Kalakaua Ave.
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Just amazing everything is great 10!
The freeing of Quan Ki and the reaction by TM and the guys really sets the tone. Then the horrific video showing Michelle and Lilly’s car bombing sends chills down my spine. When he’s running on the beach and then looks up crying with rage it’s so awesome!
Love the Genesis song playing throughout perfect selection!
Really awesome tribute to the POW’S still in Vietnam Nam all those years later. Hard to not get a bit ready eyed watching him singing to the picture of his daughter!
I love the rage in Magnum when he meets Maggie at that secluded location!
So awesome watching him go stealth and use his skills to break into Rankins, Bucks, getting the weapons from the estate, breaking into the drop site etc. and get all the research and facts!
Thomas is almost scary in this one proving Selleck’s amazing acting abilities!
As much as I dislike Buck when he tells Quan Ki “If I ever catch you even putting your little toe in this country again I’ll personally rip your heart out through your throat!’ Very awesome and badass!
The exchange itself is so emotional and awesome especially knowing how many POW’s never made it home!
To me the resounding thing about this episode is when Thomas does not shoot and kill Quang Ki because he sees the exchange and understands the significance of it.
The ending with him walking away and hearing the statistics of the Vietnam war just sends chills down my spine.
I always like to think Thomas headed to the King Kemehameha Club or the estate and got a heavy buzz on after that ordeal who wouldn’t!
The freeing of Quan Ki and the reaction by TM and the guys really sets the tone. Then the horrific video showing Michelle and Lilly’s car bombing sends chills down my spine. When he’s running on the beach and then looks up crying with rage it’s so awesome!
Love the Genesis song playing throughout perfect selection!
Really awesome tribute to the POW’S still in Vietnam Nam all those years later. Hard to not get a bit ready eyed watching him singing to the picture of his daughter!
I love the rage in Magnum when he meets Maggie at that secluded location!
So awesome watching him go stealth and use his skills to break into Rankins, Bucks, getting the weapons from the estate, breaking into the drop site etc. and get all the research and facts!
Thomas is almost scary in this one proving Selleck’s amazing acting abilities!
As much as I dislike Buck when he tells Quan Ki “If I ever catch you even putting your little toe in this country again I’ll personally rip your heart out through your throat!’ Very awesome and badass!
The exchange itself is so emotional and awesome especially knowing how many POW’s never made it home!
To me the resounding thing about this episode is when Thomas does not shoot and kill Quang Ki because he sees the exchange and understands the significance of it.
The ending with him walking away and hearing the statistics of the Vietnam war just sends chills down my spine.
I always like to think Thomas headed to the King Kemehameha Club or the estate and got a heavy buzz on after that ordeal who wouldn’t!
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Not sure if it has been mentioned before and not sure if it‘s a flub ( Imo more a continuity error).
At the beginning just after the prison camp, we see (supposedly Higgins) someone in a blue jogging pant jogging on the beach, We don’t see a face or anything . Cut to TM who writes to Lilly and then Higgins enters in a Khaki suit -not jogging at all.
I guess that it has just been overlooked and that there was something cut out Higgins jogging on the beach?
Or is there a cut in the german DVD that is not there on the US version?
At the beginning just after the prison camp, we see (supposedly Higgins) someone in a blue jogging pant jogging on the beach, We don’t see a face or anything . Cut to TM who writes to Lilly and then Higgins enters in a Khaki suit -not jogging at all.
I guess that it has just been overlooked and that there was something cut out Higgins jogging on the beach?
Or is there a cut in the german DVD that is not there on the US version?
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The US version has the prison camp and then directly to Magnum writing on the beach, then Higgins walks in wearing what looks like a beekeeper's outfit. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the beginning of Pleasure Principle? That does open with Higgins jogging on the beach in blue sweat pants, though you only see his legs at first.
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K Hale wrote:The US version has the prison camp and then directly to Magnum writing on the beach, then Higgins walks in wearing what looks like a beekeeper's outfit. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the beginning of Pleasure Principle? That does open with Higgins jogging on the beach in blue sweat pants, though you only see his legs at first.
Dang!
It seems that on the german DVD, there are some seconds of Higgins in sweatpants at the beginning of „Unfinished Business“
It‘s exactly the same like in „Pleasure Principle“ but only 5 seconds or so and the titles don‘t show up
But it‘s certainly there
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Wild! I wonder why they did that?Bondtoys.de wrote:K Hale wrote:The US version has the prison camp and then directly to Magnum writing on the beach, then Higgins walks in wearing what looks like a beekeeper's outfit. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the beginning of Pleasure Principle? That does open with Higgins jogging on the beach in blue sweat pants, though you only see his legs at first.
Dang!
It seems that on the german DVD, there are some seconds of Higgins in sweatpants at the beginning of „Unfinished Business“
It‘s exactly the same like in „Pleasure Principle“ but only 5 seconds or so and the titles don‘t show up
But it‘s certainly there
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Billiards.
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Snucker.
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I just wanted to thank you for all of your amazing, detailed posts. They are my favorite.MaximRecoil wrote:Yes, it is Austrian. In fact, you can just barely make out "Made in Austria" in those screen shots.James J. Walters wrote:You're the man Max! Thank you so much.
So, this is an Austrian rifle? It doesn't appear to be very common in the U.S., correct?
I wonder why The Mag is using this particular sniper rifle?
It is a very nice rifle, and they are generally very accurate out of the box (1/2 MOA is common). I don't believe they have ever been officially issued by the U.S. Military (they've used e.g., the Winchester Model 70, Remington Model 700, M1 Garand, M14 as "sniper rifles"), but Special Operations Forces may have more leeway when it comes to selecting their weapons than the typical GI does.
Former U.S. Marine Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Cooper (now deceased) was quite fond of the Steyr rifles. He worked with them to realize his concept of the "Scout Rifle", which Steyr now sells as the "Steyr Scout".
Cooper was quite influential in the gun world. He is the one that published the "Mozambique Drill" (mentioned by Higgins in "Mad Buck Gibson"). He was also the man behind the "Bren Ten" (Sonny Crockett's pistol in Miami Vice) and its 10mm cartridge; a 10mm pistol which was based on the legendary CZ-75 platform (which Cooper also helped to popularize).
Cooper was most famous for his promotion of the 1911 platform and its native .45 ACP cartridge for use in close quarters combat. He had a training school called "Gunsite" and also offered a specially customized 1911 (usually based on a Colt or Springfield) called the "Gunsite Service Pistol". We know that Magnum agreed with him on the 1911 .45.
Maybe someone involved with the show (perhaps Selleck himself) payed attention to Jeff Cooper and made some suggestions; though he often violated Cooper's "Golden Rule" of firearms safety:
Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
I noticed Magnum was calculating elevation and windage on those fruits at 30 or so. The target area had to be a good 300 yards out.
I loved the episode of course, especially the scene with Brazilian adding the unique atmosphere.
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MPI is kind of like golf for me. A few really bad shots (episodes), some just ok shots, and then you stripe that perfect drive or pure that 7 iron to within feet of the flag. Well this episode is one of those great shots. I remember this episode from the first time I saw it, but re-watching it today... wow. Awesome episode and a great result of deciding to do season 8. Magnum's sense of honor ultimately outweighing his need for revenge. I also love the lines by Buck Greene at the end, showing that as much of an asshole as he was, he was always on Magnum's side. Its a shame that Michele died, but knowing now that Lily survived makes it a bit less somber.
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Just skimmed thru all the comments and there are some interesting opinions and observations. Ill make a few too.
I liked the opening between TM and Higgins with the grocery list, pretty funny.
It would be easy for Ki to film from a jail cell, I mean there all kinds of illegal things going on in jails and prisons every day.
TM didn't even try to cover his tracks. When he stole the rifle from Buck's office, it would have become OBVIOUS to Buck that, after he discovered TM was on the military base, that he was going to use the rifle to shoot Ki.
TM sailed to the exchange location, so obviously it was an island and not in France.
I think the towel wrapped around the rifle muzzle was only to reduce muzzle flash, so as not to give away his location visually, not suppress the sound. Not sure what TM's plan was after the assassination, but maybe he was planning to escape go on the run.
Buck was the consummate professional, so its not surprising that he would order TM shot on sight, even though he respected him and probably his actions.
Again, I loved Buck's threat toward Ki. Showed he was a bad ass and had sympathy for TM.
When he dropped the MIA bracelet, he was ready to kill Ki and didn't care about anyone else, including the American guy being traded.
I think TM didn't shoot because, after talking to her in the office, he did not want that woman to lose her dad, as he thought he had lost Lily. Also, the way Maggie explained to him over the phone that more MIA's could possibly be rescued, TM couldn't sacrifice saving more MIA lives and be able to live with himself. Plus, as he said, Lily would be proud of his decision.
I liked the opening between TM and Higgins with the grocery list, pretty funny.
It would be easy for Ki to film from a jail cell, I mean there all kinds of illegal things going on in jails and prisons every day.
TM didn't even try to cover his tracks. When he stole the rifle from Buck's office, it would have become OBVIOUS to Buck that, after he discovered TM was on the military base, that he was going to use the rifle to shoot Ki.
TM sailed to the exchange location, so obviously it was an island and not in France.
I think the towel wrapped around the rifle muzzle was only to reduce muzzle flash, so as not to give away his location visually, not suppress the sound. Not sure what TM's plan was after the assassination, but maybe he was planning to escape go on the run.
Buck was the consummate professional, so its not surprising that he would order TM shot on sight, even though he respected him and probably his actions.
Again, I loved Buck's threat toward Ki. Showed he was a bad ass and had sympathy for TM.
When he dropped the MIA bracelet, he was ready to kill Ki and didn't care about anyone else, including the American guy being traded.
I think TM didn't shoot because, after talking to her in the office, he did not want that woman to lose her dad, as he thought he had lost Lily. Also, the way Maggie explained to him over the phone that more MIA's could possibly be rescued, TM couldn't sacrifice saving more MIA lives and be able to live with himself. Plus, as he said, Lily would be proud of his decision.