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Do you guys think Magnum and Rick took Dohaney's pension of $20,000 as payment or did they agree to a reasonable fee due to the circumstances? I am going with the latter. I am also bothered as it seems Dohaney was perfectly capable of finding the child killer rapists by himself without hiring Magnum. Of course that would not make for a very good Magnum, P.I. episode.
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Hi 'eighties' !80s Big Hair wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:39 am Do you guys think Magnum and Rick took Dohaney's pension of $20,000 as payment or did they agree to a reasonable fee due to the circumstances? I am going with the latter. I am also bothered as it seems Dohaney was perfectly capable of finding the child killer rapists by himself without hiring Magnum. Of course that would not make for a very good Magnum, P.I. episode.
A more consistent hypothesis is that Donahu may have been too well known to the murderers to investigate on his own and that he needed Magnum to play the role of "decoy" or diversion in some way ...
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Frodoleader wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:26 pm While watching this episode the other day, I noticed something I don't think I ever noticed before: there was(is) what looks to be a ship's bell in Magnum's bedroom. It was located in the foreground in one shot as he is walking into the room. Never noticed it before.
Click here for “Bell Revenge”: https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/630475833
For some reason, I hate the Joe Santos character. Why not just use Tanaka? I know, he’s got a rougher edge, yada, yada, yada. Still don’t like it/him.Little Garwood wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:20 pm I do like how Joe Santos is brought in during these "intense" episodes; he's great as usual here.
He may be Samoan, but we aren’t really given the sense he’s large in anything other than the follicular sense. In this pic, he doesn’t look much bigger than the woman holding the rag to his head.MACattack wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:45 am For the record, that wasn't a transvestite that Doheny smashed through a window. It was a large Samoan with a bad hair cut eating a late dinner. The fact that Doheny would assault a large man like that shows his lust for vengeance. A harsh move on his part, but I don't blame considering his grief over his grand daughter.
Against every fiber of his being? You have seen Did You See the Sunrise, right?Doc Ibold wrote:I like the fact that Magnum allows Doheny's "justice" to happen, even though it goes against every fiber of his being.
My interpretation is that Higgins is smart enough to know when the listener isn’t grasping the point of the story. Which Sinatra had made clear he was not, by his response.nha trang wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:50 am the only really awkward moment I think is when Higgins walks Sinatra (Doheny) to the bedroom and admits that Doheny "has a point" as a counterpoint to one of Higgins' long winded stories, yet it really isn't like Higgins to admit that someone else has a point in such a way, except for Frank Sinatra, Higgy Baby isn't going to give him any crap...
But remember, Thomas sent a check to the club to settle his tab just a few episodes ago, at the end of Solo Flight. So he was all square at the club. Rick was just being Rick.Doc Fred wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:27 amYeah, there might have been a "few" of them accumulated over the years....Doc Ibold wrote:I think there may have been a small matter of unpaid bar tabs.Doc Fred wrote:When Rick was trying to con Thomas about the reward money, did anyone besides me think he resembled Mac 2 in his approach.. "A small finder's fee.." ?????
How ironic, given what has since been torn down….Kalai-pahoa wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:58 pm As said in the main page of the episode, one of the most important scenes was shot at the International Marketplace in Waikiki.
Sad to read that the historical IM closed a couple of months ago to make room for a mall That place was an institution of Waikiki! I've been there and it was a very good and funny place to eat or buy cheap souvenirs. I'm so sad and devastated... What a pity!
Higgins wasn't trying to make Doheny feel better, he was trying to get him to see the futility of revenge.SignGuyHPW wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2014 2:46 am It was also a great touch for Higgins trying in vain to find one of his stories that would fit and get Doheney to feel a little better.
The $20,000 was his retirement gift from the group at the party, not his pension. That’s a hell of a retirement gift, but not much of a pension, even in 1987. But I have always been curious as well whatever happened with the reward money.80s Big Hair wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:39 am Do you guys think Magnum and Rick took Dohaney's pension of $20,000 as payment or did they agree to a reasonable fee due to the circumstances? I am going with the latter. I am also bothered as it seems Dohaney was perfectly capable of finding the child killer rapists by himself without hiring Magnum. Of course that would not make for a very good Magnum, P.I. episode.
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EPISODE: 7.18 Laura
Famous guest stars: 1 Frank Sinatra (I considered giving him 2 points just for being the Chairman of the Board, by far the biggest guest star of the whole series, but decided against it. It was close though.)
Hawaiian shirts:
Tigers Cap:
Island Hopper shirts:
Shirtless Magnum:
OMG:
Higgins Organizations:
Higgins musings: 1
Negotiations:
Gun Play:
Bullet wounds:
Body Count (by Magnum):
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 1
When I write HTBAWCPI: 2 The book isn’t mentioned, but two tidbits are handed out, one repeated twice.
Investigator corrections: 1
4th wall breaks:
Magnumometer: 6
Magnumometer Moments: https://vimeo.com/712450990
In the credits, there is a different shot of TM and Frank after the killer goes over the edge. In the episode, Magnum just stares at Frank/Doheny. In the shot in the credits, he gives him a slight nod, as if to say “good work”. (And perhaps is thinking: you should have asked him if he saw the sunrise.) You can check it out here: https://vimeo.com/712460928
I too noticed that the cemetery scene at the end was filmed in Hawaii and not New York, but it wasn’t because of the palm trees (which I failed to notice). It was because of the sweat on Frank’s brow, which had me thinking, wait, it would have been cold in NYC and he’s wearing a heavy coat. (Note Thomas’s comment in the video about it being cold in Tidewater at the time – if it’s cold there, it’s gotta be cold in NYC too.) Also, there wouldn’t have been any flies bugging him in the dead of winter in NYC.
In the Episode Guide, the link to the “new bedroom set” takes you to a picture of Michael Doheny’s partner, not the bedroom set.
I think this is a good episode, and while I enjoy the Genesis montage, it always makes me cringe a bit, since they were so obviously copying Miami Vice. I mean, they had to, I’m sure the network gave them no choice, but Magnum had its own thing, it didn’t need to go chasing Crockett and Tubbs for style points.
Famous guest stars: 1 Frank Sinatra (I considered giving him 2 points just for being the Chairman of the Board, by far the biggest guest star of the whole series, but decided against it. It was close though.)
Hawaiian shirts:
Tigers Cap:
Island Hopper shirts:
Shirtless Magnum:
OMG:
Higgins Organizations:
Higgins musings: 1
Negotiations:
Gun Play:
Bullet wounds:
Body Count (by Magnum):
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 1
When I write HTBAWCPI: 2 The book isn’t mentioned, but two tidbits are handed out, one repeated twice.
Investigator corrections: 1
4th wall breaks:
Magnumometer: 6
Magnumometer Moments: https://vimeo.com/712450990
In the credits, there is a different shot of TM and Frank after the killer goes over the edge. In the episode, Magnum just stares at Frank/Doheny. In the shot in the credits, he gives him a slight nod, as if to say “good work”. (And perhaps is thinking: you should have asked him if he saw the sunrise.) You can check it out here: https://vimeo.com/712460928
I too noticed that the cemetery scene at the end was filmed in Hawaii and not New York, but it wasn’t because of the palm trees (which I failed to notice). It was because of the sweat on Frank’s brow, which had me thinking, wait, it would have been cold in NYC and he’s wearing a heavy coat. (Note Thomas’s comment in the video about it being cold in Tidewater at the time – if it’s cold there, it’s gotta be cold in NYC too.) Also, there wouldn’t have been any flies bugging him in the dead of winter in NYC.
In the Episode Guide, the link to the “new bedroom set” takes you to a picture of Michael Doheny’s partner, not the bedroom set.
I think this is a good episode, and while I enjoy the Genesis montage, it always makes me cringe a bit, since they were so obviously copying Miami Vice. I mean, they had to, I’m sure the network gave them no choice, but Magnum had its own thing, it didn’t need to go chasing Crockett and Tubbs for style points.
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This was Frank Sinatra's last full character depiction on screen, so it was a big deal. He was probably the "greatest" guest star on Magnum, P.I., although his career had declined by 1987.
The episode, I thought, was okay. The part near the end when Doheny, an old man, beats up a much younger man, was unrealistic to me.
What I did like about this episode was seeing so much of downtown Honolulu as it was back then. I grew up in Hawaii and knew all those locations very well, especially since I worked for about 20 years downtown. I had eaten at Mini Garden restaurant (where Frank Sinatra throws a guy's head through the window) a few times. The seedy part of downtown, with all the strip joints and adult bookstores, is no longer there, as the city cleaned up that part of Honolulu in the 1990s.
The episode, I thought, was okay. The part near the end when Doheny, an old man, beats up a much younger man, was unrealistic to me.
What I did like about this episode was seeing so much of downtown Honolulu as it was back then. I grew up in Hawaii and knew all those locations very well, especially since I worked for about 20 years downtown. I had eaten at Mini Garden restaurant (where Frank Sinatra throws a guy's head through the window) a few times. The seedy part of downtown, with all the strip joints and adult bookstores, is no longer there, as the city cleaned up that part of Honolulu in the 1990s.
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Good story and all, but my preference is for the not so dark episodes. I liked it, but too obvious trying to be edgy like Miami Vice. When that show came out it was special...it made everything else look old. Almost like going from black and white to color. Miami Vice had the music, the color, and Crocket and Tubbs, but then it was not Magnum PI.
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Re: Laura (7.18)
I thought I had posted in this thread before, but I didn't see it, so maybe not. Anyway, I find this episode extremely difficult to watch, and not just because of the Phil Collins music (lol). Honestly, I don't mind the music so much, but man, that subject material is just difficult. So sad and terrible.
It is a good episode, but it's just hard. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so.
It is a good episode, but it's just hard. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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I agree. There's nothing more disturbing than an innocent little child having to go through something like this. The ending with Sinatra at the grave makes me well up with tears.eagle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:52 am I thought I had posted in this thread before, but I didn't see it, so maybe not. Anyway, I find this episode extremely difficult to watch, and not just because of the Phil Collins music (lol). Honestly, I don't mind the music so much, but man, that subject material is just difficult. So sad and terrible.
It is a good episode, but it's just hard. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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This episode is easily a top 5 or 10 one for me, but then I love revenge stories. Francis was excellent as the retired cop. I can't believe they got Francis to guest star on the show. As good as Magnum was, it just seems odd that he would agreed to do the show. But I'm glad he did.
I agree with others who see this episode as heavily Miami Vice influenced. The thing that perplexed me is that they sped up the Genesis song (Tonight, Tonight, Tonight). The original runs at 98 beats per minute and they had this version sped up to 110 beats per minute. As a huge fan of the song, it was kind of a buzz kill for me. I have no idea why they would have done that. I still enjoyed it though and if they still made Michelob lager I would have had a couple to relive the old times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25oYL8z6QgE
I agree with others who see this episode as heavily Miami Vice influenced. The thing that perplexed me is that they sped up the Genesis song (Tonight, Tonight, Tonight). The original runs at 98 beats per minute and they had this version sped up to 110 beats per minute. As a huge fan of the song, it was kind of a buzz kill for me. I have no idea why they would have done that. I still enjoyed it though and if they still made Michelob lager I would have had a couple to relive the old times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25oYL8z6QgE
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Somebody on these boards pointed out that stations speed up episodes in order to fit in more commercials, or to not have to chop out as much content as nowadays the standard is (give or take a minute or 2)502-to-right wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:37 am This episode is easily a top 5 or 10 one for me, but then I love revenge stories. Francis was excellent as the retired cop. I can't believe they got Francis to guest star on the show. As good as Magnum was, it just seems odd that he would agreed to do the show. But I'm glad he did.
I agree with others who see this episode as heavily Miami Vice influenced. The thing that perplexed me is that they sped up the Genesis song (Tonight, Tonight, Tonight). The original runs at 98 beats per minute and they had this version sped up to 110 beats per minute. As a huge fan of the song, it was kind of a buzz kill for me. I have no idea why they would have done that. I still enjoyed it though and if they still made Michelob lager I would have had a couple to relive the old times!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25oYL8z6QgE
40 minutes content, 20 minutes commercials when syndicated. Out of the 48 uncut minutes of an original episode, they have to lop off 8 additional minutes for ads.
I particularly notice the speeding up has occurred when at the end of "77 Sunset Strip" the episode's theme music starts playing, after a few seconds it jarringly returns to normal speed as the music
makes it obvious the episode has been sped up.
We will know if they ever do this to "Cannon" when William Conrad's deep baritone suddenly sounds like a soprano.
I suppose if the trade off is more content via a speeding up that we normally don't notice, then I can put up wtht it.
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Re: Laura (7.18)
Regarding "Coors" bottles, they were probably lookalike labels from Earl Hays Press, which has supplied such things to the industry for many decades.
It can be seen on this page:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... ottles.pdf
Was this the first time TM asked for Old Duseldof in a longneck? I've always remembered that preference of his, but during my chronological rewatch I've been surprised when he's ordered something else, and I don't remember noticing it earlier.
As for the shots in the credits, I think every one of them was an alternate take or had extra moments not in the episode.
It can be seen on this page:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... ottles.pdf
Was this the first time TM asked for Old Duseldof in a longneck? I've always remembered that preference of his, but during my chronological rewatch I've been surprised when he's ordered something else, and I don't remember noticing it earlier.
As for the shots in the credits, I think every one of them was an alternate take or had extra moments not in the episode.