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Re: The Robin Masters Estate (Pahonu)

#1186 Post by 308GUY »

Welcome Colt1911.

Great site, great people, all in support of a great show. :higgins:

Contact Sascha2000 (pm him) as he is trying to organize an effort to do something, anything, to keep it intact and ideally available for visitation by MPI fans and followers.

Not sure how much success it will have, but in the end, whether it gains anything or not, at least an effort will have been made by some.

Always glad to see new folks show up, kind of reinforces the belief that there may eventually be enough of us to warrant keeping the "the dream" alive. :magnum:
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Re: The Robin Masters Estate (Pahonu)

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New to the group….I don't want to make even the smallest promise, but it has always been my dream to own this house.
I have been a huge 5O as well as Magnum fan. I used to own a home on Kal Hwy sold to me by the realtor with the listing on this house. The movie industry has been very good to me these past 20 years or so…… Most people that post on this site are dead on- property ownership especially oceanfront in Hawaii is very very expensive- and hard on the nerves. Expenses- Labor and material are 3 times what anyone would consider exorbitant. "Hawaiian Time" is not a joke. OK- if I sell some property etc I could possibly afford this….. BUT is it still Robin's Nest if the main house needs to be gutted, and the beach house is a tear down? 3 acres is a great piece of oceanfront property- but this is not Kahala, Diamond Head or East Honolulu. To be honest, the videos, pictures and stories about "hopping the fence" and the invasion of Mrs. Anderson's privacy have me very concerned- would you want to wake up on a Saturday morning to see strangers in your yard- and possibly your living room (things like this HAVE happened)? That said, I would definitely be way more open to fans (like me) that wanted to see the property we all are drawn to. It would pain me to see the structures torn down and this property divided. This isn't unobtainable for me- but would mean putting a lot of long term assets in one- questionable- very neglected property. I've read every entry in all 120 odd pages and haven't seen any posts from possible buyers- what do you guys think? Is this a dream that you really would want to come true? (I've know people that drive that red Ferrari- people yell things at you and throw things in the back seat if you leave the top down………) Just know- this is an honest post from a McGarrett and Magnum fan!

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Re: The Robin Masters Estate (Pahonu)

#1188 Post by 308GUY »

Welcome CalHwy, always glad to see new faces!

Nothing about buying this property is "practical" from just about any point of view imaginable. I still think if it were done the right way, a return on the investment could be realized, but it would take just the right touch in handling it, and most of all, it would probably take longer than most of us will live to just break even.
The biggest draw for me, would be to preserve the "memory" of the estate presented in the show, for as I have mentioned before, to me, the estate itself was nearly as much a "character" as any of the actors. The fact that it was also used in 50 before MPI, is just an added bonus. One of the other motivators (for me) would be to be able to make it available to people in the future who are fans of the show(s) to visit or become fans of the show, as I predict many will.

Selling time shares, vacation packages, tours, etc. shouldn't be a hard sell. People have been going to the islands for decades to visit "paradise", having the estate intact would be an added bonus, in my opinion. People are always looking for a good place to stay while in paradise. Again, it's not a practical move, but it could pay off in practical terms at some point in the future. Disneyland was once just a dream in Walt's head, right? I'm a little surprised that somebody from the show hasn't already snatched it up for themselves, Mr. Manetti comes to mind first, but it does support the belief that it's probably not a good investment, or at least, nobody see's it as one...yet. Doesn't Selleck have brothers and/or other family that are into real estate? There must be a reason, none of those who would be in a position to jump on it, haven't. I would think tour packages with an overnight or two (or even a week for a price) wouldn't be hard to sell.

I would think that at least some of the "Hollywood" crowd would be in line to reserve and pay for, vacation packages at Robins Nest. I've heard some pay absolutely outrageous amounts of money for island "get-a-ways" in other places. Handled correctly, this should meet with the same success, IMHO.

I, like many others just hate the thought of it being broken up into little plots with little vacation homes built, and essentially lost forever as the place that most represents the show and all the people associated with it. Once it's gone, it's gone. Another "tangent" that has occurred to me, is why couldn't somebody build a duplicate estate somewhere in a coastal city on the mainland? Wouldn't be the same, I know, and who doesn't want to visit Hawaii?

At any rate, there are some random, possibly rabid thoughts from a fan of the show, the cast, the island, sentimentality and nostalgia. I would very much still like to be able to visit at some point, and at least have a swim in the tidal pool, and a peek through the back gate. You're right, if I actually lived there, I don't think I'd want strangers always trying to sneak a peek, or actually trespass, but hey, that's what security (and those who oversee/maintain it) is for! :D

The guesthouse could be rebuilt, the main house can be renovated, the grounds brought back to beauty, it's only money! If I had the means, I'd already be there, and it would be underway! :magnum: :higgins:
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We can only dream!!!

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CalHwy wrote:New to the group….I don't want to make even the smallest promise, but it has always been my dream to own this house.
I have been a huge 5O as well as Magnum fan.This isn't unobtainable for me- but would mean putting a lot of long term assets in one- questionable- very neglected property. I've read every entry in all 120 odd pages and haven't seen any posts from possible buyers- what do you guys think? Is this a dream that you really would want to come true?
Welcome to the forum CalHwy. I hope you decide to swing this as my guess is that an offer in the 6 million dollar range, the listing price for years, would take this.You already have the great advantage with knowing the realtor, having lived in the area and having hollywood connections which I would think would jump at the opportunity to film on the grounds again. Oh, and you have at least one member here that just hit 60, would gladly give up everything to move to Oahu and help with the rehab and security for not much more than room and board :magnum: . Good luck and thanks for the post that gives us fans of our "Mecca" some hope.............

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Steve wrote: Welcome to the forum CalHwy. I hope you decide to swing this as my guess is that an offer in the 6 million dollar range, the listing price for years, would take this.You already have the great advantage with knowing the realtor, having lived in the area and having hollywood connections which I would think would jump at the opportunity to film on the grounds again. Oh, and you have at least one member here that just hit 60, would gladly give up everything to move to Oahu and help with the rehab and security for not much more than room and board :magnum: . Good luck and thanks for the post that gives us fans of our "Mecca" some hope.............
Well said Steve!

I also thought that an offer in the 5-6 range would probably cinch the deal.

Also, another vote for believing the potential for future film projects (Steve or Danno's new digs? Magnum revisited, movies, etc.) is more than real.

Make that at least two in the already hit 60 category...... :magnum:
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#1192 Post by CalHwy »

Hi Guys!
Thanks for making a new member feel so welcome. Nice to see there's no turf war going on between the two greatest series of all time (no names- both filmed in Hawaii). I corresponded with the people involved and can verify everything that has been said about the condition of the main house and guesthouse. I don't think the beach house was addressed. Trust me on this, the Realtor involved is by far the most respected professional of any I have ever dealt with at this level. I think it would make everyone that posts on this site feel good to know that she she knows it is a magnificent setting and the most beautiful property ever seen. You have to smile a little…..

Hoping to see the property this month.

Aloha

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#1193 Post by 308GUY »

Sounds great! Please keep us posted on any new developments.

Good to know the transaction is in good hands. Just hope she doesn't hold out for "top" dollar because she knows what she does about the place.

As for the welcome, we try to make all newcomers feel like "one of the gang", that's how I was made to feel when I showed up, only right that everyone else be made to feel the same way.

Not to take anything away from any other members, new or not, but I can't think of any other member that was/would be more welcome than somebody who is in a position to rescue the estate, and has expressed an intent to investigate doing so further. :magnum:
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Aloha[/quote]
CalHwy wrote:Hi Guys!
Thanks for making a new member feel so welcome. Nice to see there's no turf war going on between the two greatest series of all time (no names- both filmed in Hawaii). I corresponded with the people involved and can verify everything that has been said about the condition of the main house and guesthouse. I don't think the beach house was addressed. Trust me on this, the Realtor involved is by far the most respected professional of any I have ever dealt with at this level. I think it would make everyone that posts on this site feel good to know that she she knows it is a magnificent setting and the most beautiful property ever seen. You have to smile a little…..

Hoping to see the property this month.

Aloha
This is exciting. I'm going to Hawaii in April for three days... so, CalHwy, I'm going to ask if you happen to make a specific purchase by then can I drop by;/

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CalHwy wrote:Hi Guys!
Thanks for making a new member feel so welcome. Nice to see there's no turf war going on between the two greatest series of all time (no names- both filmed in Hawaii). I corresponded with the people involved and can verify everything that has been said about the condition of the main house and guesthouse. I don't think the beach house was addressed. Trust me on this, the Realtor involved is by far the most respected professional of any I have ever dealt with at this level. I think it would make everyone that posts on this site feel good to know that she she knows it is a magnificent setting and the most beautiful property ever seen. You have to smile a little…..

Hoping to see the property this month.

Aloha
As Steve mentioned earlier - the one benefit you would definitely receive should you buy the place is a whole lot of free labour from all the fans that would love to get the chance to pitch in and help restore the buildings and grounds. A lot of free grunt work would definitely bring reno costs down somewhat, especially when it comes to projects such as the grounds which require a lot of labour, but not as much expertise.

I'd definitely offer my assistance next time I'm over there.

I've stayed fairly quiet on this sale topic as its great for fans to dream of what may/could be if another fan bought the place. With regard to the financial aspect of the property, as much as I would hope any buyer would allow fans such as ourselves entry - even of only a couple times a year on an organised and paid basis - I think the real value in this property would not lie with charging fans at hotel rates etc as this would involve permanent staff, administration etc and the headaches that would go along with that.

But let's look at it more realistically - the real money from restoring this property would rest with these two key business propositions:

1) Once restored, marketing it to the film studios again as a backdrop/setting for movies filmed on Honolulu, episodes of H50, any other show that films in Hawaii for an episode etc, as well as future TV shows developed in Hawaii. I've got no idea how much the current incarnation of H50 pays to use the luxury houses we see in scenes, but I'm sure it's not chicken feed.

2) A luxury rental for the rich. Once it's done up including extra luxury amenities inside and looks fantastic (the rich and famous aren't going to want to rent the place if it's '50s decor and amenities) - I'm sure you can start talking rates of multiple tens of thousands per week for a celeb to stay there with his entourage, or a rich family to have a secluded getaway from prying eyes.

These two proposals above work harmoniously together, and also afford the owner the joy of having the property to themselves whenever and however often they desire.

I think looked at it from this point of view, the land and buildings you're paying for with the $6M purchase price will only rise as property/land valued increase over time, as well as increase in value once the place is restored. The reno costs of lets say $2M (?) would be made up for with the likely resultant increase in value, and the property would then likely make a good ROI based on the yield provided by the two business avenues above.

That's just my take. Even selling all my properties wouldn't get me in the door for this listing :D

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Just the imagination that someone could buy the estate and refurbish the place, so that it looks like in the days of shooting Mpi, is awesome. As someone else said before: Probably all the fans would pass by on their Hawaii trip and help to set up the original state.
It would be great if there would be annual meetings for members of magnummania and/or all the volunteers. Possibly even TS and the others would appear on the opening ceremony, taking the chance of travelling back in time, seeing the set as it was in the 80s!!
I just hope that the estate would not be flooded by so called 'fans' that are actually just dropping by to take a selfie, because the place was listed in the tour guide... :evil:

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If the price gets too low, developers will buy it and chop it up. The property has to be bought by a collector. Someone that likes history and preservation. Restoration would be the first job, from the pics of the grounds, it needs a good landscaper and gardner. Then rent out the property for films sets, and a wealthy B&B as the main income. Open to public once a month. Inside the home could be filled with Magnum set props and collecting items. If someone lived there, they would have to deal with many visitors on the beach looking in, not sure this would work.

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AdamSkating wrote:If the price gets too low, developers will buy it and chop it up. The property has to be bought by a collector. Someone that likes history and preservation. Restoration would be the first job, from the pics of the grounds, it needs a good landscaper and gardner. Then rent out the property for films sets, and a wealthy B&B as the main income. Open to public once a month. Inside the home could be filled with Magnum set props and collecting items. If someone lived there, they would have to deal with many visitors on the beach looking in, not sure this would work.

"One of the gardeners developed hysterical amnesia when Mad Buck Gibson attempted to jump the fountain with Robin Masters rolls royce "
Welcome AdamSkating!

Good assessment of the situation.

"Inside the home could be filled with Magnum set props and collecting items. If someone lived there, they would have to deal with many visitors on the beach looking in, not sure this would work."

If someone lived there under these conditions, they would BE a "Magnum prop" of sorts. It would be a given that the preservation would be in the Magnaverse. I'll volunteer....... :magnum:
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#1199 Post by eltonsean »

well, to help with the problem of people "looking in" on the property, you could always hire someone to take care of security around the grounds. It could be a nice part-time job for someone who has another main source of income. you could even let them live... I don't know... maybe in the guest house or something? How's that for an idea??
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eltonsean wrote:well, to help with the problem of people "looking in" on the property, you could always hire someone to take care of security around the grounds. It could be a nice part-time job for someone who has another main source of income. you could even let them live... I don't know... maybe in the guest house or something? How's that for an idea??
You can't really keep people from looking very easily, because it is a public beach, according to state law. The property extends only to the mean high tide line, so basically any sand that gets wet is public, and of course the water in the tidal pool as well.

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