No need to walk back anything. Extreme feminists would object for example to Jan, the businesswoman, referred as "beautiful" as one of the attributes used for admiring her business success. Also, the models continually are referred to as "girls." As long as there will be beauty contests or fashion shows physical attractiveness will be an important feature; ignoring the obvious is ludicrous. Some older women would enjoy the flattery. It could be that insiders in the fashion industry might still talk that way, so MPI might not deserve the PC criticism.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:00 pmNot offensive per se just a bit cringy and likely to have dungaree-clad feminists screaming "demeaning to women", for example when the compere says stuff like: "..and more than a touch of sexiness in this daringly-cut two-piece"ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:14 amWhat was the commentary? I don't remember anything offensive.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:20 pmNo, it’s the commentary from the compère that would probably get some triggered nowadays.ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:04 pmAre you talking about wearing the bathing suits? Is that not a thing anymore in fashion shows?charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:24 pm
A story that's very much of it's time as a lot of the fashion show scenes wouldn't be PC today.
Actually you're right Ivan, having rewatched that scene I think I remembered it as being worse than it actually was.
I blame that on me becoming an old git !
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What it was is that I thought the commentary from the compere was quite salacious and sexist, but when I re-watched it was really not that bad, IMHO.Mark de Croix wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:16 pmNo need to walk back anything. Extreme feminists would object for example to Jan, the businesswoman, referred as "beautiful" as one of the attributes used for admiring her business success. Also, the models continually are referred to as "girls." As long as there will be beauty contests or fashion shows physical attractiveness will be an important feature; ignoring the obvious is ludicrous. Some older women would enjoy the flattery. It could be that insiders in the fashion industry might still talk that way, so MPI might not deserve the PC criticism.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:00 pm
Not offensive per se just a bit cringy and likely to have dungaree-clad feminists screaming "demeaning to women", for example when the compere says stuff like: "..and more than a touch of sexiness in this daringly-cut two-piece"
Actually you're right Ivan, having rewatched that scene I think I remembered it as being worse than it actually was.
I blame that on me becoming an old git !
As a show of the '80s looked at through contemporary eyes it it can appear chauvinistic.
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I had to Google "compere". That one hasn't made it across the pond yet. And I hadn't bumped into it despite Morse, Lewis, Endeavour, Luther, Unforgotten, Collateral, Shetland, Fleabag, etc. I guess there weren't enough bathing suit fashion shows in those....
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Ha ha, yes “compère” is a particularly English word (but perversely of French origin).ENSHealy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:50 pm I had to Google "compere". That one hasn't made it across the pond yet. And I hadn't bumped into it despite Morse, Lewis, Endeavour, Luther, Unforgotten, Collateral, Shetland, Fleabag, etc. I guess there weren't enough bathing suit fashion shows in those....
If you’ve seen stuff like Luther, Lewis and Morse can I make a suggestion?
You might want to try some especially indecipherable English dialects as you might enjoy them, in which case there is “Auf weidersehen Pet” (only the first 2 seasons as they are the best) as it’s a series from around the same time as MPI.
It centres around a group of bricklayers from the north east of England(Geordies)
Their accents are so strong and dialect so tricky that most English people need the subtitles on when the Geordies speak.
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I don't even really worry about this stuff anymore since everything is "offensive".charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:22 pmWhat it was is that I thought the commentary from the compere was quite salacious and sexist, but when I re-watched it was really not that bad, IMHO.Mark de Croix wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:16 pmNo need to walk back anything. Extreme feminists would object for example to Jan, the businesswoman, referred as "beautiful" as one of the attributes used for admiring her business success. Also, the models continually are referred to as "girls." As long as there will be beauty contests or fashion shows physical attractiveness will be an important feature; ignoring the obvious is ludicrous. Some older women would enjoy the flattery. It could be that insiders in the fashion industry might still talk that way, so MPI might not deserve the PC criticism.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:00 pm
Not offensive per se just a bit cringy and likely to have dungaree-clad feminists screaming "demeaning to women", for example when the compere says stuff like: "..and more than a touch of sexiness in this daringly-cut two-piece"
Actually you're right Ivan, having rewatched that scene I think I remembered it as being worse than it actually was.
I blame that on me becoming an old git !
As a show of the '80s looked at through contemporary eyes it it can appear chauvinistic.
You look beautiful.
What do you mean? Don't I normally look beautiful? I have a brain you know? That's mean to ugly girls. How dare you!
A Babe is a Babe. Whatchagonnado?
Knocking my rubber chicken or my sloppy habits is within the rules, but you're attacking my character. I would like to think you don't mean that.
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@TQ, completely agree, Bro. Also enjoyed @ENSHealy's humor.
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I actually watched the first episode, maybe the first two, on youtube, but the subtitles are artificially generated, and are more amusing for their inaccuracies then anything else. Looked for a DVD set online, but it doesn't look like it was ever released in Region 1 format. But I should definitely go back and give it another go on youtube.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:35 pmHa ha, yes “compère” is a particularly English word (but perversely of French origin).ENSHealy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:50 pm I had to Google "compere". That one hasn't made it across the pond yet. And I hadn't bumped into it despite Morse, Lewis, Endeavour, Luther, Unforgotten, Collateral, Shetland, Fleabag, etc. I guess there weren't enough bathing suit fashion shows in those....
If you’ve seen stuff like Luther, Lewis and Morse can I make a suggestion?
You might want to try some especially indecipherable English dialects as you might enjoy them, in which case there is “Auf weidersehen Pet” (only the first 2 seasons as they are the best) as it’s a series from around the same time as MPI.
It centres around a group of bricklayers from the north east of England(Geordies)
Their accents are so strong and dialect so tricky that most English people need the subtitles on when the Geordies speak.
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That’s great that you did try to watch them somewhere - I think it’s in Britbox via Amazon Prime as you’re right that it didn’t come out on region 1 DVD.ENSHealy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:02 pmI actually watched the first episode, maybe the first two, on youtube, but the subtitles are artificially generated, and are more amusing for their inaccuracies then anything else. Looked for a DVD set online, but it doesn't look like it was ever released in Region 1 format. But I should definitely go back and give it another go on youtube.charybdis1966 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:35 pmHa ha, yes “compère” is a particularly English word (but perversely of French origin).ENSHealy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:50 pm I had to Google "compere". That one hasn't made it across the pond yet. And I hadn't bumped into it despite Morse, Lewis, Endeavour, Luther, Unforgotten, Collateral, Shetland, Fleabag, etc. I guess there weren't enough bathing suit fashion shows in those....
If you’ve seen stuff like Luther, Lewis and Morse can I make a suggestion?
You might want to try some especially indecipherable English dialects as you might enjoy them, in which case there is “Auf weidersehen Pet” (only the first 2 seasons as they are the best) as it’s a series from around the same time as MPI.
It centres around a group of bricklayers from the north east of England(Geordies)
Their accents are so strong and dialect so tricky that most English people need the subtitles on when the Geordies speak.
For a giggle here’s a short YouTube clip where the gang end up comparing themselves to the Magnificent Seven. Turning on the subtitles will be quite amusing as you've already discovered.
https://youtu.be/3k_zSJlUg_8
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Hi Guys! I had to bail on the party several weeks ago, as my current job is taking up all of my waking hours. I plan on playing catch up though and reading through all the comments. Thanks for keeping things going!
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A job that takes up all of your waking hours? Sounds important…or absolutely horrific.Styles Bitchley wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:49 pm Hi Guys! I had to bail on the party several weeks ago, as my current job is taking up all of my waking hours.
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Lol. Thankfully, it’s the former. Lots of travelling and late nights. If they carried Magnum on the entertainment systems on long haul flights, I’d be able to keep up easily. Actually at the airport now preparing to cross the pond for the second time in two weeks!Little Garwood wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:55 pmA job that takes up all of your waking hours? Sounds important…or absolutely horrific.Styles Bitchley wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:49 pm Hi Guys! I had to bail on the party several weeks ago, as my current job is taking up all of my waking hours.
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I figured it would be important!
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Crossing the pond ? It’s typical English spring weather here, wet and overcast. At least you missed the sleet showers a week or so ago.Styles Bitchley wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:03 pmLol. Thankfully, it’s the former. Lots of travelling and late nights. If they carried Magnum on the entertainment systems on long haul flights, I’d be able to keep up easily. Actually at the airport now preparing to cross the pond for the second time in two weeks!Little Garwood wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:55 pmA job that takes up all of your waking hours? Sounds important…or absolutely horrific.Styles Bitchley wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:49 pm Hi Guys! I had to bail on the party several weeks ago, as my current job is taking up all of my waking hours.
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I’ll be in Scandinavia, actually. Still pretty cold there - but not much different from Canada!
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Scandinavia is definitely a place to visit in the summer in my case - when I’ve gone in the past it’s been in August.Styles Bitchley wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:58 am I’ll be in Scandinavia, actually. Still pretty cold there - but not much different from Canada!
Only saw Oslo and Trollhättan (for the SAAB museum) and have since decided to try and learn Swedish.