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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: MIA from Gulf War found. Reply with quote

The remains of Michael Scott Speicher, America's only MIA from the first Gulf War have been found and will be returned home.

I will be returning my bracelets to his family. If anyone here has Scott's bracelets I urge you to do the same as this is the traditional show of respect for recovered MIAs and their families. The return of bracelets also shows the family that their loved one was not forgotten during the years they were unaccounted for.

WASHINGTON – The remains of the first American lost in the Persian Gulf War have been found in Iraq, the military said Sunday, after struggling for nearly two decades with the question of whether he was dead or alive.
The Pentagon said the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology on Saturday had positively identified the remains of Navy Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher, whose disappearance has bedeviled investigators since his fighter jet was shot down over the Iraq desert on the first night of the 1991 war. The top Navy officer said the discovery illustrates the military's commitment to bring its troops home. "Our Navy will never give up looking for a shipmate, regardless of how long or how difficult that search may be," said Adm. Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations. The Pentagon initially declared Speicher killed, but uncertainty — and the lack of remains — led officials over the years to change his status a number of times to "missing in action" and later "missing-captured." The family Speicher left behind, from outside Jacksonville, Fla. — continued to press for the military to do more to resolve the case. Family spokeswoman Cindy Laquidara said relatives learned on Saturday that Speicher's remains had been found. "The family's proud of the way the Defense Department continued on with our request" to not abandon the search, she said. "We will be bringing him home." Laquidara said the family would have another statement after being briefed by the defense officials, but she didn't know when that would be. More than a decade after he was shot down in a combat mission, the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq finally gave investigators the chance to search inside Iraq. That led to a number of new leads, including the discovery of what some believed were the initials "MSS" scratched into the wall of an Iraqi prison. The search also led investigators to excavate a potential grave site in Baghdad in 2005, track down Iraqis said to have information about Speicher and make numerous other inquiries in what officials say was an exhaustive search. Officials said Sunday that they got new information last month from an Iraqi citizen, prompting Marines stationed in the western province of Anbar to visit a location in the desert which was believed to be the crash site of Speicher's FA-18 Hornet. The Iraqi said he knew of two other Iraqis who recalled an American jet crashing and the remains of the pilot being buried in the desert, the Pentagon said.
"One of these Iraqi citizens stated that they were present when Captain Speicher was found dead at the crash site by Bedouins and his remains buried," the Defense Department said in a statement. The military recovered bones and multiple skeletal fragments and Speicher was positively identified by matching a jawbone and dental records, said Rear Adm. Frank Thorp. He said the Iraqis told investigators that the Bedouins had buried Speicher. It was unclear whether the military had information on how soon Speicher died after the crash. Some had said they believed Speicher ejected from the plane and was captured by Iraqi forces, and the initials were seen as a potential clue he might have survived. There also were reports of sightings. Laquidara was among those who said she believed he survived the crash. "It's really easy to put out a yellow ribbon but not so easy to allocate resources to find a missing serviceman or woman," she said earlier this year. "If Scott's not alive now, he was for a very long time, and that could happen to somebody else." While dental records have confirmed the remains to be those of Speicher, the
pathology institute in Rockville, Md., is running DNA tests on the remains recovered and comparing them to DNA reference samples previously provided by family members. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Captain Speicher's family for the ultimate sacrifice he made for his country," Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said in the Pentagon statement. "I am also extremely grateful to all those who have worked so tirelessly over the last 18 years to bring Captain Speicher home."



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got the address for the return of Capt. Speicher's MIA bracelets. Since there have been no replies to this thread, I don't know if anyone here has one, but if you do you should send them to the following address ASAP.

Bob Beuhn
Division Chief Military Affairs, Veterans and Disabled Services
Recreation and Community Services Department
City of Jacksonville
City Hall, 117 West Duval Street, Suite 175
Jacksonville, FL 32202


I have been told that if they arrive at the above address before Capt. Speicher is buried, the returned bracelets will be buried with him.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw the story on CNN.

What a wierd coinsidence that you had his bracelete.

Hopefully this will give the family closure.



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Miss Q wrote:
I just saw the story on CNN.

What a wierd coinsidence that you had his bracelet.

Hopefully this will give the family closure.


Not coinsidence. I purposely got his bracelet about 2 months after he was lost. Then about 6 years ago I got another one for my wife. We have mailed them to the above address.
I also had one for SSGT. Matt Maupin who was confirmed found March 30, 2008. I returned that one as well. I wore all three bracelets in rotation over the years. I'm left with only one now, the one I've had for about 25 years. Capt. Lewis P. Smith II 5-30-68. I look forward to the day I can "get rid" of that one too.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always admired and respected the practice of wearing those bracelets that Americans have.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On August 13, 2009 the remains of Captain Michael Scott Speicher arrived in Florida 18 years after having been shot down in the Persian Gulf War. The plane containing his remains touched down at Jacksonville Naval Air Station at 3 p.m. Captain Speicher's final resting place is at the Jacksonville Memory Garden.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: MIA from Gulf War found. Reply with quote

N1095A wrote:
The remains of Michael Scott Speicher, America's only MIA from the first Gulf War have been found and will be returned home.

I will be returning my bracelets to his family. If anyone here has Scott's bracelets I urge you to do the same as this is the traditional show of respect for recovered MIAs and their families. The return of bracelets also shows the family that their loved one was not forgotten during the years they were unaccounted for.

WASHINGTON – The remains of the first American lost in the Persian Gulf War have been found in Iraq, the military said Sunday, after struggling for nearly two decades with the question of whether he was dead or alive.
The Pentagon said the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology on Saturday had positively identified the remains of Navy Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher, whose disappearance has bedeviled investigators since his fighter jet was shot down over the Iraq desert on the first night of the 1991 war. The top Navy officer said the discovery illustrates the military's commitment to bring its troops home. "Our Navy will never give up looking for a shipmate, regardless of how long or how difficult that search may be," said Adm. Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations. The Pentagon initially declared Speicher killed, but uncertainty — and the lack of remains — led officials over the years to change his status a number of times to "missing in action" and later "missing-captured." The family Speicher left behind, from outside Jacksonville, Fla. — continued to press for the military to do more to resolve the case. Family spokeswoman Cindy Laquidara said relatives learned on Saturday that Speicher's remains had been found. "The family's proud of the way the Defense Department continued on with our request" to not abandon the search, she said. "We will be bringing him home." Laquidara said the family would have another statement after being briefed by the defense officials, but she didn't know when that would be. More than a decade after he was shot down in a combat mission, the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq finally gave investigators the chance to search inside Iraq. That led to a number of new leads, including the discovery of what some believed were the initials "MSS" scratched into the wall of an Iraqi prison. The search also led investigators to excavate a potential grave site in Baghdad in 2005, track down Iraqis said to have information about Speicher and make numerous other inquiries in what officials say was an exhaustive search. Officials said Sunday that they got new information last month from an Iraqi citizen, prompting Marines stationed in the western province of Anbar to visit a location in the desert which was believed to be the crash site of Speicher's FA-18 Hornet. The Iraqi said he knew of two other Iraqis who recalled an American jet crashing and the remains of the pilot being buried in the desert, the Pentagon said.
"One of these Iraqi citizens stated that they were present when Captain Speicher was found dead at the crash site by Bedouins and his remains buried," the Defense Department said in a statement. The military recovered bones and multiple skeletal fragments and Speicher was positively identified by matching a jawbone and dental records, said Rear Adm. Frank Thorp. He said the Iraqis told investigators that the Bedouins had buried Speicher. It was unclear whether the military had information on how soon Speicher died after the crash. Some had said they believed Speicher ejected from the plane and was captured by Iraqi forces, and the initials were seen as a potential clue he might have survived. There also were reports of sightings. Laquidara was among those who said she believed he survived the crash. "It's really easy to put out a yellow ribbon but not so easy to allocate resources to find a missing serviceman or woman," she said earlier this year. "If Scott's not alive now, he was for a very long time, and that could happen to somebody else." While dental records have confirmed the remains to be those of Speicher, the
pathology institute in Rockville, Md., is running DNA tests on the remains recovered and comparing them to DNA reference samples previously provided by family members. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Captain Speicher's family for the ultimate sacrifice he made for his country," Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said in the Pentagon statement. "I am also extremely grateful to all those who have worked so tirelessly over the last 18 years to bring Captain Speicher home."


You have brought goosebumps and tears to my eyes with this.

Good work.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a beautiful and emotional piece, thanks for posting it Mike and thanks for wearing and returning the bracelet. Reminded me a bit of the end of Unfinished Business or the HBO Movie Taking Chance.


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Steve wrote:
What a beautiful and emotional piece, thanks for posting it Mike and thanks for wearing and returning the bracelet. Reminded me a bit of the end of Unfinished Business or the HBO Movie Taking Chance.

Appreciated, but thanks isn't necessary. It's a subject I feel very strongly about, and happily the tie-in wit MPI makes this a great forum to share information. Over the years I've been both saddened and very rewarded by meeting the families of POW/MIAs from the Vietnam era, and by my involvement in the issue. As long as they're remembered, they aren't lost. My wearing the bracelet has evolved since 1983 from being because Magnum wore one to learning and knowing the story behind it. I wish there were no need for the bracelets. As I said, I hope one day to not have to wear my remaining one, even though after 41 years, 2 months, and 14 days, Capt. (now Major) Lewis P. Smith is unlikely to be returned. Unlikely, but not impossible! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YosPK-6fsTo

I want to issue an open call to M-M members to adopt a POW/MIA. Pick an MIA from the over 2000 still missing. Find out all you can about him, and wear his bracelet.

http://www.hbo.com/films/takingchance/video/video.html
Thank you Steve for turning me on to Taking Chance. I was unaware of this film. I looked at the trailers on youtube, and immediately went to Blockbuster. I just finshed watching the movie and I strongly urge everyone here to do the same. This is a very simple film, but it is perhaps the most moving, and powerful film I have ever seen. Adding to the emotion is the knowledge that not only is this a true story, but the fact that that it is only one of over 3000.



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great story Mike! Thank you for sharing this with us!



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