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J.J. Walters
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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: Memories Are Forever (2) (2.6) |
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This is the official MM thread for Memories Are Forever (2) (2.6). All discussions and reviews for this episode should go here. If you wish to rate the episode, please do so with the poll. The avg. score will be the official 'community rating', which will be used on the episode page (updated monthly).
This thread is also linked in the episode page of the Episode Guide.
Original Air Date: 11/5/1981
Magnum's desperate search for Michelle faces being forced to a halt after he has been called up for active Navy duty and ordered to testify in Washington. Magnum suspects that is just a political smokescreen to try and get him off Michelle's trail. Magnum is briefly reunited with Michelle, who is married to Vietnamese General Hue, who is involved in delicate negotiations regarding returning remains of M.I.A.s and P.O.W.s from Vietnam. But Michelle is suspected of being a traitor agent and is in great danger.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Part 2 of this episode -- and another tangential subject |
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Okay, I have a question of logic here. After Thomas meets Michelle at the chapel, he apparently brings her back to the guest house at Robin's Nest, at which point we pick them up and he's in the shower. WHY???? He hadn't done anything sweat-worthy at the chapel, and I am guessing that he cleaned up before he went to MEET her. So why is he showering to get clean when they get to the guest house? Is this just an "excuse" (and a lousy one in my opinion) to show some beefcake here? or to get him wearing only a towel for the seduction scene? This makes no sense at all.
The one thing I can't object to is the love scenes between Thomas and Michelle. I was going to post a thread on the general discussion about why is it that Thomas' love scenes with other women always look so fakey. He doesn't look involved, the kisses look forced, they all look (to me) embarrassingly staged. The love scenes with Michelle look more convincing. Of course, she is supposed to be his REAL love . . . . but come on! Life moves on. If he is supposed to be in love or involved emotionally with someone else, the love scenes should be more . . . convincing? Or is Tom Selleck just not a good on-screen lover? The sexiest man is the crummiest on-screen romancer?
Granted, this is just my opinion. Well, the only other romantic scenes he played that were at least semi-convincing were with Dana Delaney in the two "L.A." episodes. But he seems to be better in a romantic relationship where there actually is no kissing. It just seems that Thomas is more romantic when he actually never has to actually KISS the lady involved.
Is this worthy of a separate thread? It just something I've noticed and something about which I would like to hear some input from other fans.
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IslandHopper
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Part 2 of this episode -- and another tangential subject |
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| golfmobile wrote: | | Okay, I have a question of logic here. After Thomas meets Michelle at the chapel, he apparently brings her back to the guest house at Robin's Nest, at which point we pick them up and he's in the shower. WHY???? He hadn't done anything sweat-worthy at the chapel, and I am guessing that he cleaned up before he went to MEET her. So why is he showering to get clean when they get to the guest house? Is this just an "excuse" (and a lousy one in my opinion) to show some beefcake here? or to get him wearing only a towel for the seduction scene? This makes no sense at all. |
Maybe he wanted to be at his freshest when he seduced her. Or, maybe it was the writer's way of showing how Magnum puts her on a pedestal, i.e., that he couldn't be with her unless he was recently purified. It's anyones guess, but good point though.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Part 2 of this episode -- and another tangential subject |
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| golfmobile wrote: | | Of course, she is supposed to be his REAL love . . . . but come on! Life moves on. |
Someone was obviously a big fan of Casablanca during those first two seasons. In addition to Rick and his Cafe Americain, we have Magnum falling for someone who was (unknown to both) still legally married. He then had to let her go, so that she could be with her husband as he led the secret revolution.
Heck, the team ring had even been used to signal Victor Laszlo, upon his arrival at Rick's Cafe!
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OK,
IH (if you have season 2 on DVD, please back me up on this).
I, being very bad at this sort of thing, believe I have found a flub!
When Rick and TC are being forced up the stairs of the tattoo parlor (non dream sequence before the Ki/Magnum showdown), the guy holding the gun on them is wearing a team ring!
Now, any other episode, I could excuse this as a continuity error, but they played a lot of this episode up of the significance of the team ring.
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It's close Doc. The ring looks very similar to a team ring, but I don't think it is a team ring. The ring is the same shape, but the top of the ring doesn't appear to have the black on top like the team ring.
If this was in fact a team ring, I think it could be explained that the Viet agent wearing the ring was wearing it as a trophy of some kind. Maybe he killed a "team member" at some point and took it as a trophy. So IMHO, I would say it is not a flub either way you look at it. Sorry Doc.
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IH,
I'm confused. I thought the "team" was really a rather self-established team of TM, Rick, TC, and Dan Cook -- and maybe one or two others? I.e., how did the killer in "Death and Taxes" get a ring? Was that ever explained? I forget right now as I type this.
Was Nuzo a team member with a ring?
So I don't see how a Viet could have killed a "team member" who also had a ring. I thought only the team members were/are the ones we get to know in the series, and those are the ones who had a ring. So I don't know of another "unknown" one that a bad guy could have killed to keep the ring as a trophy from.
Of course, it might not have been "THE" ring, just looked like it, as you stated. Still . . . . why even allow a character to wear a ring so similar? I thought that it was pretty strictly regulated as to what jewelry actors can wear so nothing is obviously contradictory to the story line.
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