Deja Vu (2) (6.2)

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Milton Collins
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Little Garwood wrote:I just watched Deja Vu again and I'm wondering about Stokesy. Was he part of the assassination team? He stares back at Magnum and walks away, but what was his role supposed to be since he wasn't the real Inspector Stokesy?

What was the significance of the boy in the sailor suit?
Quite frankly I was confused by many aspects of this episode, and wasn't crazy about part 1 or 2. I gave both a 6.5 and that was generous as I hadn't seen this one in years and by memory expected it to be even worse. Some highlights 1) an awesome castle featured as Robins Keep. Wish we would have seen even more of it inside, cool place! 2) Ricks behavior was hilarious in this one, he acted like a little kid the whole time and totally cracked me up. 3) TC's sidetracked trip. Was that Moracco? How cool that he ends up being enticed and spending the night with that ritch princess or whatever she was. And what a cool house she had! I was in Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas recently and it reminded me of it, water everywhere! Wonder where that place really is/was? 4) Higgins avoidance of seeing his family and the eventual kidnapping by Magnum. Pretty touching scene as he saw his father for the first time in what, like 40 years? I can't help but crack up at the makeup job they did either lol. And has anyone noticed that "old man Higgins" picture is one of the first ten or so pics that shows up in Hillerman's imdb? That kindve sucks for Hillerman's as that wasn't exactly his finest moment looks wise lol. Anyway great and sad ending! I'd always wondered about some of the details of his upbringing and clearly his father was very hard on him and they were not close.

Some low lights 1) the little boy in the sailor suit was beyond stupid! Who was that supposed to be/represent? Magnum and Jeffs "psychic connection"? Jeffrey as a kid? Anyway I found the kid and that silly flute music to be pretty ridiculous and almost laughable. Maybey if they had explained? 2) I thought it was out of character for TM to hook up with his dead buddy's wife. I know the woman was attractive and that Magnums a red blooded American but it just seemed out of character for him in my book. 3) call me crazy but I just don't care for any of the episodes outside of Hawaii. The local is part of what made Magnum so great, I was happier to see them stick to the islands myself.

Overall not a horrible 2 part episode but not one on par for a show as great as Magnum in my humble opinion.

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#52 Post by J. Rickley Schneider »

I found this to be the worst of the two-part episodes.

I still have questions about the plot. Maybe I missed something and someone has the answers.

Why was Geoffrey killed?

Who were they trying to assassinate at the end and why?

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Shermy wrote:The series contradicts itself in this episode, as Geoffrey is implied to have been involved in the assassination of Sadat in 1981. But in "Did You See The Sunrise?", it was suggested that Ivan had been responsible for the attack.

However, we could still assume that more than one team was involved in the plot, or that Geoffrey was yet another of Ivan's pawns that he had used to do a job.
I have noticed too, I think Ivan & Commies hand in this assassination is highly probable

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#54 Post by MaximRecoil »

J.J. Walters wrote:Very interesting charybdis1966, thanks! I'm relieved to know that he wasn't calling Higgins an "old knob". ;)
I always thought it was just meaningless banter, i.e., the same idea as other "stock British phrases" such as "old stick", "old bean", or "old chap".

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#55 Post by ☨magnum.t »

Maybe I'm missing something here but if Higgins father is the Duke of Perth would the family home not be in Perth, Scotland? If so that's about 7 and a half hours from London.... Kind of a long drive for Higgins to make and then leave.
That reminds me of the time....

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☨magnum.t wrote:Maybe I'm missing something here but if Higgins father is the Duke of Perth would the family home not be in Perth, Scotland? If so that's about 7 and a half hours from London.... Kind of a long drive for Higgins to make and then leave.
I am not an expert on the peerage but I don't think it works that way. It's just a title. Like Prince Charles is Prince of Wales but he doesn't live there.

What about Higgins' brothers and sister, are they barons and baroness also?
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#57 Post by ☨magnum.t »

K Hale wrote:
☨magnum.t wrote:Maybe I'm missing something here but if Higgins father is the Duke of Perth would the family home not be in Perth, Scotland? If so that's about 7 and a half hours from London.... Kind of a long drive for Higgins to make and then leave.
I am not an expert on the peerage but I don't think it works that way. It's just a title. Like Prince Charles is Prince of Wales but he doesn't live there.

What about Higgins' brothers and sister, are they barons and baroness also?
I believe Higgins older brother is Baron which Makes Higgybaby a Lord...I think lol
That reminds me of the time....

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☨magnum.t wrote:
K Hale wrote:
☨magnum.t wrote:Maybe I'm missing something here but if Higgins father is the Duke of Perth would the family home not be in Perth, Scotland? If so that's about 7 and a half hours from London.... Kind of a long drive for Higgins to make and then leave.
I am not an expert on the peerage but I don't think it works that way. It's just a title. Like Prince Charles is Prince of Wales but he doesn't live there.

What about Higgins' brothers and sister, are they barons and baroness also?
I believe Higgins older brother is Baron which Makes Higgybaby a Lord...I think lol
But Higgins said in the ep where that terrible woman is trying to marry him that he's the Baron of Perth, aka Lord Perth. That was the title she wanted him to deedpoll. However, she did say that "with your brothers and their children" that he was unlikely to ever become a duke.
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#59 Post by K Hale »

I found this but refuse to read it all or else my head will explode. How confusing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditar ... and_titles Does this mean he has four older brothers?? I have no idea.

I'll try and find some sort of Peerage for Dummies webpage.
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#60 Post by ☨magnum.t »

Yes it is quite confusing and would take a college degree for me to figure it out lol. The internet says The five titles of the peerage, in descending order of precedence, or rank, are: duke, marquess, earl, viscount, baron. But I am not sure how they are inherited.
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#61 Post by K Hale »

Well, this is very helpful. http://laura.chinet.com/html/titles05.html

Quote: "The rule is that a woman who marries a peer takes her courtesy title from her husband. Period. However, if a peer's daughter marries anyone who is not a peer, including commoners, knights, baronets, or any sons of a peer (including his heir who bears a courtesy title), then she may, if she chooses, maintain her own rank as long as it outranks her husband's." Which reflects the events of Echoes of the Mind vis a vis the Lady Ashley.

Also useful: a table of precedence showing who outranks who. http://laura.chinet.com/html/titles07.html

This also explains why a duke, as the highest level of the peerage, might hold several titles. Albert Stanley Higgins might be simultaneously Duke of Perth, Earl of Something, Baron of Something Else, etc. http://laura.chinet.com/html/titles05.html#John Hopfner

This is all interesting info but I still haven't found out how titles are distributed among a duke's children.

EDIT: I did find this, though I don't know how accurate it is: "In British peerage, the next lesser title is most commonly a rank below the father's title, so eldest son of a duke is usually a marquis, and for an earl it's usually a viscount, for example." If that's true, then it seems Higgins might have four older brothers (not necessarily all still living) as well as a sister.
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#62 Post by ☨magnum.t »

It also makes me wonder how titles could be removed. In this ep Higgins tells Thomas not only his father but his entire family basically disowned him when he was kicked out of Sandhurst and enlisted. I wonder if its a formal registry thing or informal you are dead to me type thing.
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#63 Post by K Hale »

Well, since he has seen at least his sister since that time (he hypnotized her to help her remember where she lost a brooch, and mentions also that she was married and had four "monstrous" children), I think it may have been more of a case of him feeling like they all disowned him rather than anything they actually did or any formal steps taken. He also mentions his mother in the present tense in "Did You See the Sunrise," in a way that at least suggests he has spoken with her.
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#64 Post by HTWoodson »

5 Well-known English actor Julian Glover (Duncan Scott) played General Maximilian Veers in Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, the Bond villain Aristotle Kristatos in For Your Eyes Only, and Walter Donovan in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
He most recently played Grand Maester Pycelle in HBO's Game of Thrones.

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#65 Post by Mad Kudu Buck »

Yes, but most importantly - he was a green, one-eyed alien Jagaroth in "City of Death":

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At least he was well dressed.

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