The Kona Winds (6.4)

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I'm sorry if I seem to be mocking but I'm not...I really want to know.

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#52 Post by Braddah Kimo »

oookay.
Contrary to popular belief that this is a fairly realistic Tv program, it is replete with fabrications unheard of in real life. Especially real life here in Hawai'i.
Kahuna eyes do not flash anything. Unless the particular individual has something different going on, or he/she makes it happen. That would be uncommon. Although for many kupuna, the age, wisdom, experience, spirituality shines through in their eyes and is quite noticeable, and moreso would it be with kahuna. Also kahuna are not out in the open parading about at beach clubs saying I am a Kahuna.. I am not saying Manu Tupou did this but really, you would not know a kahuna if he bumped into you. Unless you kama'aina, maybe. Kahuna are discrete, private, basically egoless souls. A concept wholly foreign to the western mind. In fact most all Polynesian concepts cannot be grasped by the western mindset. It is a time proven thing. That is one problem with Hawai'i based TV shows having exposure across the nation. Too many myths, misconceptions of our islands and culture are disseminated too freely. Then, when its time to learn the truth, many are forced to unlearn falsities and fallacies. And that doesn't go down to well.
Besides. Kahuna are found in all walks of life. Kahuna is/was a master of a particular craft. They are deeply respected for their dedication to their milieu and the word and concept is sacred and to see such a plethora of "big Kahuna" this and Big Kahuna that ... the word being overly commercialized, makes some of us cringe. We can thank the Gidget movies for the gestation of that abomination, and the base American cultural appropriation habit of its continuation through the decades.

No, there are no flashing eyes. Nor do we have kona winds transforming a man to a maniac or stirring the seas into a frenzy. Maybe the Kona storms do that to the waters. Any storm would.
Neither would we have any instances of British twits yelling at people offshore with the use of a bullhorn! Telling them to go away. No, we tell THEM to go away. Nor do we have local private investigators running about shooting at all and sundry while speeding around town dangerously, in the most ostentatious Italian import available, some guy with NO connections to da braddahs, or any rapport for that matter, with locals, all the while acting like a fresh off da boat haole with no sense of the islands or its culture or any grasp at all of its lingo!
Sorry. More than ya asked for. But take most everything Hollywood creates about our culture with a big dose of seasalt...

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#53 Post by Stelth »

Thank you for your response. To paraphrase; Magnum P.I. is a fictional depiction of non-Hawaiians living on Oahu who occasionally interact (rudely) with native Hawaiians in the 1980s.

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hahahaaa. good un.

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Stelth wrote:Thank you for your response. To paraphrase; Magnum P.I. is a fictional depiction of non-Hawaiians living on Oahu who occasionally interact (rudely) with native Hawaiians in the 1980s.
Haha, I cracked up when I read this.

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#57 Post by J.J. Walters »

Doc Fred wrote:I don't recall which episode we were discussing when the topic turned to a hot gal (Lady X) who showed up in many of the episodes without credits, someone who always seemed to be there to attract attention from Magnum... a great-looking brunette.. I think she was in this one, too, but no one mentioned noting here. She was Big Ed Kanakoa's girl at the KKC during Rick's party... I think. I don't know how to get screen shots, but it was at around the 35:00 mark, give or take.
Did you post a screencap of this before? Or am I losing my mind? I could have sworn I saw a screencap....

In any event, I've captured it myself. Good eye there Fred! I'd say it's her. Lady X strikes again! :)

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#58 Post by marlboro »

I thought this was a very good episode. I am a big fan of film noir and I think it's a shame that Magnum PI didn't have more of these types of episodes. It was nice to see a "straight" homage instead of just another parody.

I also think Cynthia Sikes looked great and did a very good job playing the femme fatale.

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I also have zero problem with Magnum being seduced in this episode. When you have an episode centered around a femme fatale, the protagonist being seduced just goes with the territory. And as a noir fan I'm also willing to buy the Kona Winds explanation. It's the Hawaiian version of the classic film noir trope "It was hot in the city. Too hot." "Crazy from the heat" in other words. And they did a good job of reminding the audience that everyone was acting slightly out of character: TC philosophizing, Rick partying like it's 1999, and Higgins planning like it's 1899.

If you ever get caught cheating on your wife, I don't think the "It was the Kona Winds, baby, I swear!" defense will likely keep you out of divorce court.

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#59 Post by Little Garwood »

Sam Henderson (Frank Converse) has a good, noirish line in this episode:

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#60 Post by SignGuyHPW »

I wasn't a huge fan of this episode. It wasn't especially bad, but it had some flaws I didn't enjoy. Like many of you, I didn't agree with Magnum so quickly bedding another man's wife knowing she was married. Blaming the weather was a weak way of trying to defend that it wasn't his fault. I thought that it was also strange that nobody except Higgins and the secretary seemed overly concerned about a major storm approaching. Magnum was out working on this case, Rick was throwing a huge party, TC was flying supplies to the other islands, Sam was just going on about his buisness, etc. Magnum didn't seem to care that the estate was at risk of taking major damage and just left all of the preparations to Higgins. Another thing that bothered me was that Magnum got referred to Mrs. Henderson as "the best" as far as private investigators goes, but her plan called for a "second rate p.i." to get caught up in the fight with her husband. The final part with the dramatic double crosses was great writing.

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#61 Post by terryfromkerry »

Blaming the weather was a weak way of trying to defend that it wasn't his fault.

Hey again SignGuy,

Enjoying your posts. In this instance I liked the way MPI very frequently paid homage to classic film noir. Weather conditions played an important atmospheric part in those old movies. I am thinking of Key Largo ( hurricane ), Casablanca ( fog bound and rain soaked runway ), etc. For me the storm, the winds , the waves & Magnum's out of character emotions worked. :)
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terryfromkerry wrote:Blaming the weather was a weak way of trying to defend that it wasn't his fault.

Hey again SignGuy,

Enjoying your posts. In this instance I liked the way MPI very frequently paid homage to classic film noir. Weather conditions played an important atmospheric part in those old movies. I am thinking of Key Largo ( hurricane ), Casablanca ( fog bound and rain soaked runway ), etc. For me the storm, the winds , the waves & Magnum's out of character emotions worked. :)
I can see some emotions being out of character due to weather, but complete character rehaul is a bit of a stretch for me. Magnum dropping all pretense of professionalism to bed a married client so quickly just didn't seem like something he'd do.

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IslandHopper wrote:This "instantly falling in love" seems to be a trait shared by not only Thomas Magnum, but also Rick, TC and Higgins. Rick, however, is probably the most obvious.

In "Woman On The Beach", Rick falls for the woman on the beach posing as Sarah Clifford. He was with her for only a few minutes on the beach before she/or the ghost) disappears. Just prior to meeting the ghost of Sarah/or the imposter, he was waiting for his new love he had just met two or three days before, when he called to see where she was. The woman's roommate said she had gone off to get married. "When it's right, it's right."

In "Computer Date", Rick falls in love with another man's wife who has hired Magnum to do work for his company, and to find out if she's having an affair. Rick gets carried away as usual and wants her to go away with him. The female guest star, Nancy DeCarl, Rick falls in love with is actually Larry Manetti's wife in real life.

In Almost Home, you could see Rick sort of falling for the characher played by Kathleen Lloyd. His attraction to her was mainly because she was a street-smart, sports nut who knew the betting-line on all of the games. Rick won big on her advice regarding a basketball game.

In "All For One" Rick falls in love with a Vietnamese girl who tends to him after he was shot. Rick wanted to bring her back to the States and marry her. In a twist of irony, Rick himself put the kibosh on that after he shoots the girl's father, killing him.

In "A Little Bit Of Luck, A Little Bit Of Grief" Rick goes off of the deep-end after winning a $1,000,000 lottery. He instantly falls in love with a blonde who is conspiring with two hoods to steal some of his lottery winnings.

TC has also fallen in love rather quickly.

In "Black on White", TC falls for Bibi Kiamanhi (although nothing really happens between the two), who is actually an under cover agent trying to find out who is killing Higgins' fellow commrades who served with him during the Mau Mau Uprising in the 50's.

In Deja Vu, TC has a one-night stand with a wealthy Moroccan woman. The next morning he hints that he doesn't have to actually go to London and would like to stay. Unfortunately for TC, she sent him packing.

Higgins has even shown the tendency to fall in love instantly.

In "Tropical Maddness", Higgins falls for a much younger British woman who has been duped into getting close to Higgins for a reason other than what she has been told. Because of his feelings for this woman, Higgins slugs Magnum across the face after Magnum kisses her.

In "Letter To A Dutchess", Higgins falls for Vivian Brock Jones a/k/a Lady Wilkerson, after he meets her in a local British shop in Honolulu. Higgins had actually met her many years earlier during one of his campaigns, but did not really know her. Unfortunaely for Higgins, Lady Wilkerson has her sights set on the "Mag."

And of course, we are all aware of Magnum's exploits.


Sounds like "Love is in the Air"...been watching some episodes of "Love Boat" filmed back in the eighties too, love seems the thing to do! Funny!

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J.J. Walters wrote:Rick: You do two things when a storm comes in. One, you lock your windows. Two, you lock your doors. Then you boogie, boogie, boogie until ya drop!

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Haha good quote! I about died when Rick said that line. I absolutely love this episode, one of my top ten episodes and I rated it accordingly @ 9.5! Some great parts 1) the beginning narration and scenes where Magnum found Laura jumping into the water 2) Higgins attitude towards the storm was hilarious. He and TM had a couple fantastic exchanges regarding Higgins approaching the storm as one would a war, loved it! 3) I liked the whole premise of the storm shutting down the island at times and Magnum having to sneak around office buildings, mansions, etc. gave it a good mysterious/creepy feel and I love those kinds of episodes. 4) great overall plot and twist at the end. I have watched this episode many times and can still appreciate the intricate plot and the fantastic twist at the end. Love it at the end when she thinks Sam is dead and that she has caught Magnum in her trap only to find out he had already figured it out beat her to the punch and told Sam. 5) Ed Konakona is played with another fun appearance by Dick Jensen who I really enjoyed as a reoccurring actor playing small roles. 6) Cynthia Sikes is definitely one of the babes of the series but also did a really good acting job playing the "poor abused wife" of the successful business man. She was very believable. Overall great episode, love it!

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[quote="SignGuyHPW"
I can see some emotions being out of character due to weather, but complete character rehaul is a bit of a stretch for me. Magnum dropping all pretense of professionalism to bed a married client so quickly just didn't seem like something he'd do.[/quote]


I have to say I totally agree and as I've seen this one many times I've always thought that TM sleeping with his married client was WAY out of character! I do like his line as he opens the car door and walks around it in the rain saying "what am I doing I'm an idiot" lol! So he did himself recognize that he was acting kinds of crazy but I still don't think that some things he did in this episode fit his character. Good post SignGuyHPW!

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