Echoes of the Mind (2) (5.2)

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9.5 (One of the Best)
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#21 Post by Islandhoppers5 »

Goodness gracious, although she is STILL lovely, Sharon Stone was so beautiful in these episodes.

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#22 Post by nha trang »

Forgive me as I wipe the drool off my chin after watching the episode, I am still imagining a young Sharon Stone walking into MY shower...megababe!

I have really nothing else to say about this 2-parter that hasn't already been said better than I could say it. I kind of agree with everyone's points.

For what it's worth, I think part of the reason watching Magnum PI on TV always intrigued me is the stories would mostly be so casual, and then I'd catch one of the ongoing plot episodes (Nam flashback, Michelle etc) and I would wonder why I didn't know what was going on.

After having started watching the DVDs, and reading comments on here about a kind of "sea change" in the episodes coming up, I realize that my favorite Magnum is the jovial, good natured one trying to stop from hearing the score of the game, making a chili dog, fumbling with an automatic coffee vending machine, pulling rubber chickens, Kaline glove, and gorilla mask out of the closet, taking out the surfski in the beautiful ocean, and even on a serious note, with his quirky traditions, like "Home from the Sea," Magnum being tested...I hope these things don't go away in later seasons to be replaced by more intricate plot lines and more violence....but we'll see.

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#23 Post by zebra3 »

308GTS wrote:I've gotta say that this two parter is a real turkey. I've tried and tried to find something that might redeem it but I just can't.

Firstly, why on earth would Magnum fall in love with a total psycho like Diane/Deidre when he knew for some time that they were one and the same. As much as I like Sharon Stone, she's a superb actress but in this she's just lame, sorry but I just cannot see why anyone would like this episode.
I believe I can explain this, just as Higgins did:
"She is beautiful and vulnerable."

Come on, most guys (Esp. Magnum) are suckers for a pretty damsel in distress. She is gorgeous and clearly troubled and TM being TM, he felt compelled to help her.
I'm no expert on love, but they way it seems, you can't help but feel the way you do. Sometimes, as Higgins said, it's just right.
"Burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me."

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#24 Post by zebra3 »

Islandhoppers5 wrote:Goodness gracious, although she is STILL lovely, Sharon Stone was so beautiful in these episodes.
I always thought she was hottest in "The Specialist." In fact, I'm sure of it.
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#25 Post by burny »

i just watched pt 1 and 2 just now - its been a little while since i have. something about this 2 parter just has a different feel to the entire rest
of the series. when i just viewed it now, it really felt different.

i thought hillerman stole the show here - i found myself much more interested
in the hig's storyline and performance - the TM and Hig scenes in this ep are
fantastic.

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#26 Post by zebra3 »

Yeah I always found Agatha a weird character in the show until this episode. They managed to make you feel something for the almost unrealistically quirky side character. Now I have some love for Agatha, that she isn't pathetic and naggy, (well, she is) but a decent person with feelings.
"Burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me."

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#27 Post by MaiTaiMan »

"Echoes of the Mind"...the title says it all, baby! :wink: I LOVE anything psychological, suspenseful, eerie, spooky, bizarre, etc...and this delightful, little bone-chilling, 2-part, season premiere was exactly all of this!!

One of my all-time favorites--I love the "Hitchcockian" style plot twists as we get to view the bizarre but fascinating mental collapse of the sweet but psychotic Diane Dupres...and then the venomous lies and back-stabbings of Diane's hateful, nympho-aggressive twin sister Diedre---but which one is which? :shock: Sharon Stone did a superb job with the character/s and this was back when she was still pretty hot! :wink: :lol:

The opening scenes of the Porsche racing down a dark, wet beach cliff road at dusk, while the eerie and spine-tingling music plays in the background are superb and mezmerizing! It gives me goosebumps everytime and I'm like: "Here we go...this is gonna be wild!" :D I also love how throughout the episode you kept thinking someone (either Diedre or someone else) was hiding in Diane's closet, watching and waiting for the right moment to pounce. But, in reality it was a dead guy, supposedly still watching in...well is it Diane's or Diedre's mind?? Yup...exactly! :shock:

Then we suddenly get a double treat! Besides Magnum and Diane...we get to see how Higgins almost throws his life away on a venomous and heartless woman of his own! I love how Higgins suddenly realizes what an uncaring "harpy" Lady Ashley turns out to be...and how he and Agatha trick Lady Ashley and her idiot man-companion to call the wedding off! :lol: I always thought Higgins and Agatha should have ended up together. :wink: However, even if they did a reunion movie or something this can never be now...as Gillian Dobb (Agatha Chumley) sadly passed away in 2001. :cry:

The end of this episode was very wild and blunt-quick...very "Miami Vice-ish". It left you going..."Whoa!" :o But, it was supposed to. "Echoes of the Mind" was and still is a very effective psychological shocker for "Magnum" and 80's television! Beautiful!! 8)

(I put this same review for Part 1)
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#28 Post by miltontheripper »

Great episode! Sure it's a bit far fetched but in some episodes isn't that what makes this show so fun to watch? Sharon Stone couldn't be hotter or more convincingly nuts, Magnum's bushy hair couldn't look worse, and Higgins finding out what a cold, selfish person Lady Ashley is was a great subplot. This one had it all for me, not to mention watching a horribly done rotweiler attack on Magnum that literally made me laugh out loud. I give this a 9.5!

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#29 Post by MaiTaiMan »

miltontheripper wrote:Great episode! Sure it's a bit far fetched but in some episodes isn't that what makes this show so fun to watch?
Exactly...could not have said it better! :)
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#30 Post by Sisophous »

This is a duplicate post by me, I posted it initially on part 1 replying to another post but soon after realized it belongs in part 2 of this episode, Echoes of the Mind. I see no harm if it is posted twice but it really belongs here.



Thanks J.J. for the photo.

Sharon Stone is attractive but something about her always turned me off. I think she comes across as very seductive but also emphatically arrogant on film....... Look at me, I am it, no one else measures up to me. I am the most beautiful.

Part 2 which I just viewed is a major disappointment. I rated part 1 as 5 stars but part 2 of Echoes of the Mind as 3 stars.

Sharon Stone playing her twin sister in two roles is not believable, they are obviously the same person. And, Higgins playing himself and his half brother is also absurd it is so obvious. The delusional Sharon Stone playing Diane and taking her life is another poorly written script. The ending makes little sense other than Sharon Stone in the role of Diane is a loon and hallucinating. This part 2 is a bad episode but I still rated it as 3 stars for a few good segments such as Higgins being honest about his wrongly interpreted marriage intent.

The script writers took a 5 star episode from part 1 and really turned out a piece of crap in the second part with another confusing ending which only they understand while the public is left guessing.

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#31 Post by mandolabar »

I thought I remembered Higgins encountering, and being done with, Lady Ashley earlier in the season...I went back and found it, it was Season 2's Computer Date.

I guess she lost weight? Had plastic surgery? Oh, well, I'll happily suspend disbelief for the great Higgins plotline in this one. John Hillerman is a master; and Gillian Dobbs does a very good job as well.

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#32 Post by MaiTaiMan »

mandolabar wrote:I thought I remembered Higgins encountering, and being done with, Lady Ashley earlier in the season...I went back and found it, it was Season 2's Computer Date.

I guess she lost weight? Had plastic surgery? Oh, well, I'll happily suspend disbelief for the great Higgins plotline in this one. John Hillerman is a master; and Gillian Dobbs does a very good job as well.
Yeah, the aspect of Higgins and Lady Ashley in this one was somewhat of a non-continutiy, as you're right...supposedly Higgins was done with Ashley in "Computer Date." But I loved the whole saga with Higgins and her in this superb 2-parter! So, like you I was willing to forego the plotline and character not matching up from the past episodes. :)
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#33 Post by Kiekoes »

Definitely did not expect the ending! Turns out she was 'another Michelle' after all. :(

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#34 Post by MaiTaiMan »

Kiekoes wrote:Definitely did not expect the ending! Turns out she was 'another Michelle' after all. :(
Huh...another "Michelle" :?: :?:
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#35 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

nha trang wrote: After having started watching the DVDs, and reading comments on here about a kind of "sea change" in the episodes coming up, I realize that my favorite Magnum is the jovial, good natured one trying to stop from hearing the score of the game, making a chili dog, fumbling with an automatic coffee vending machine, pulling rubber chickens, Kaline glove, and gorilla mask out of the closet...
I'm the opposite. I like Magnum's imperfections, but there's something about a 40-year-old going on 12 that puts me off on a very deep level.

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