All For One (1) (5.15)

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Re: All For One (1) (5.15)

#41 Post by Doc Fred »

Yes, there were flubs, but they didn't detract .001 from the score...

As was pointed out, when McKinney shoots off the cannon, the doubles for Rick, TC and Thomas are obvious. I am virtually positive TC's double was Bob Minor, who was in charge of stunts for the series.

When they were prepping to leave from the airport, it was supposed to be 5am.. Some of the shots had sun coming down from what was clearly well overhead, and not at 5am. In addition, half the shots here were in bright sun, the other were on a rainy morning...
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#42 Post by marlboro »

Tyler Peabody McKinney = Norm Macdonald after three tours of duty


I liked these episodes. As someone has already mentioned, i think what I liked best about "All for One" was that everyone in the cast got to play an important part in the story and they all did wonderful jobs.

Favorite part of the episode: Rick shooting the old man. A very powerful scene. I half expected the old man's daughter to pick up the gun and force Rick to shoot her. I suppose that would have been a bit too dark.

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#43 Post by SignGuyHPW »

I really, really liked this one. I thought the scene with the battlefield recreation was kind of strange, but it was a good set up for the episode's theme. I took it as a metaphor for Viet Nam. It was pretty clear, at least to me, that they were going to be set up somehow by Tyler, but it still kind of drew me in to see how exactly they'd be betrayed.

I also thought it was odd that actual rounds of ammunition were being shot towards Rick and TC. That seemed pretty reckless for a man that's very familiar with what it can do. It was kind of odd to me that Magnum never used his contacts to verify Tyler was right about everything before he went all the way to Cambodia. You'd think he'd check on something like that if he knew the guy wasn't totally trustworthy and the mission was high risk.

The overall theme of the episode was great. The team got back together for one more mission in Asia to save one of their own despite not trusting the guy running the mission. Higgins joining them because he could relate to what they were trying to do was really a nice touch. I'm not sure if it was supposed to be implied or not, but the way Magnum was worried about Rick being hungover only to see Rick shot minutes later was something I'm sure happened a lot in the actual war. That may have been something they inserted into the show based upon a story a vet had told.

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MACattack wrote:Seems like everybody is hatin' on this episode! I actually enjoyed it a lot more than episode with Luther Gillis .

The gunfight with the Thai bandits is reminiscent of the riverboat scene in 'Apocalypse Now'.

Wow great point! I just saw Apocalypse Now for the first time a few months back and they are extremely similar!

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N1095A wrote:
Artie Canoe wrote:I love this episode, especially the epic scene where the plane door opens and Higgins is standing there!

This scene for me defines the relationship between Higgins and the rest of the guys. This wasn't his cause. He didn't know J.J., Despite what Tyler said about Higgins missing "the action", i believe Higgins went along because of his bond with the guys. Because knew there was a chance he would never see them again, and his knowledge of the area, and his ability as a soldier no matter how long past would be an asset in helping to keep his friends that he cared for much more than he left on, alive.


Also noteworthy was TC closing the curtain in the plane as they were leaving Hawaii. he paused, and the camera showed a "parting shot" of the island. To me this was his taking one last look at home, because ie might not ever see it again.

Set aside the Rambo, A-Team cheese factor, and this is a very good episode from the standpoint, of the guys feelings toward each other, and the overpowering comittment to duty and honor that they all had in common. It helped along with so many other scenes, in so many other episodes to define their character. For those who dodn't care for it, I suggest you look at not as a stand alone story, but rather in the context of the entire series. I too was not very keen on this one, but after watching it a few times I began to see it in a different light. In fact, looking at it from that perspective, I'd venture to say it may have been one of the best episodes of the series.[/quote]


You said it perfectly! The first time or two that I watched this one I wasn't a big fan but I've seen it a couple times since and it's really grown better with each view. This was not an outstanding episode because of the semi-ridiculous story or the cheesy battle scenes. It was a 9.0 for me because it took a deep dive into the characters and showed their true colors, meaning their commitment to each other and to fighting for what they beleived in. I mean, it wasn't even Higgins war and he went to support the others. I loved the scene with him at the airplane door, pretty awesome to me that he would make the sacrifice and come along! For me, this one displayed as much as any other episode the extremely close bond these four shared and that they were good, honorable men. Tyler was a creep but I think he proved he was ok deep down (very deep, he was a maniac!) when he jumped on the grenade at the end. I have noticed comments about the opening reinactment scene in several other posts. I have to agree with those of you that thought it was INSANE that Higgins was using live ammo to bomb the guys lol. I mean, who would really do that? I guess Higgins would:) It made for a hilarious opening scene regardless.

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#46 Post by Milton Collins »

These are a bit un Magnum like but are still fun!

- The benning Battle of "Salamander" (lol) battle is hilarious. And like many of you, I'm thinking it is completely insane that Higgy is shooting at our boys with his little cannon. Personally, I loved the fact that TM burst in and spoiled the reinactment. Like he said, if he can't play to win he doesn't want to play!

- Tyler P McKinney is AWESOME/OUT OF SIGHT! Love his character, completely ridiculous yet somehow believable, Robert Forster did a great job here.

- Higgins in battle just cracked me up completely.

- I loved the airplane scene where they all showed up seperately, really cool to see them band together.

By no means a favorite of mine but this two parter (which I think is technically a very long one parter much like "Did You See the Sunrise") is a good solid episode. I like to watch it every now and then just for a change of pace.


Oops, just realized that I made the last two posts on this episode dating back to last December. Wow, maybe I need to shut off Magnum and get a life? Lol!

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#47 Post by marlboro »

Milton Collins wrote: Wow, maybe I need to shut off Magnum and get a life? Lol!
I think, if you jump from rooftop to rooftop a few times, that you will realize that your Magnum watching life's mission was the correct choice after all.

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marlboro wrote:
Milton Collins wrote: Wow, maybe I need to shut off Magnum and get a life? Lol!
I think, if you jump from rooftop to rooftop a few times, that you will realize that your Magnum watching life's mission was the correct choice after all.

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Ha ha ha I love it!!!! There are certainly far worse ways to spend your time!!! I usually watch three or four episodes a week, just can never get enough:)

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Not Rick, meet Not TC. Not TC, meet Not Magnum. Not Magnum, meet Not Rick.

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#50 Post by marlboro »

^^^ lol

1 - Higgy Baby has snapped and started dressing Robin Master's guests as Rick, Thomas, and TC so that he can hunt them down with his cannon "Most Dangerous Game" style.

Or

2 - they did a sloppy job of hiding the stunt guys.

Both scenarios are equally likely, imo.

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marlboro wrote:^^^ lol

1 - Higgy Baby has snapped and started dressing Robin Master's guests as Rick, Thomas, and TC so that he can hunt them down with his cannon "Most Dangerous Game" style.

Or

2 - they did a sloppy job of hiding the stunt guys.

Both scenarios are equally likely, imo.
It's totally #1.

But to be serious, this is an amazing and very moving episode in about fifty different ways, most of which have been spelled out already in this thread so I won't rehash it. I did not find it cheesy at all. I liked the way it was obvious the mission would not have succeeded without the unique contributions each one of them brought to the team. Good stuff.

The airplane door lowering and the old warhorse standing there prepared to board is probably my #1 favorite moment in the entire series.

Small but great moment: when the gang arrives back at the village after the mission and TC grabs Magnum in a bear hug, then turns to hug Higgins, who glares at him like "Don't even think about it," then grabs his hand and gives him a manly clap on the shoulder. :lol:
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RamblerReb wrote:
  • In the shootout on the river with the bandits, Selleck again shows his real-life weapons experience by firing his MP5 in short, controlled, aimed bursts with the extended stock firmly against his shoulder, no flinching or blinking to be seen. Hillerman again shows his relative inexperience by "spraying and praying" into the jungle, stock retracted, closing his eyes every time he pulls the trigger.
They should've given him a TSMG.

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#53 Post by brianw »

Other than the combat scenes being a little corny, this (along with part 2) is one of the better episodes of the series for me. Especially in Season 5, where it seems like most of the other episodes are pretty boring. It really hammers home the relationship of the guys, and makes Higgins basically an equal to them. And Robert Forster is definitely one of the better guest stars of the series as well.

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J.J. Walters wrote:I just saw this episode again recently. This one seems to get better with repeated viewings. All for one and one for all! Tyler Peabody McKinney may be my all-time favorite "episode character" of the show. Robert Forster is just fantastic in this role! "Outasight!". :)
Also, when Tyler says Magnum was "the best at bringing back scalps", what exactly does this mean? I've heard of guys bringing back ears and other "things" to prove their "hit count", but never scalps! Is it just a figure of speech?
Hi JJ,
I agree with you 100% on Tyler being a great character portrayed by one of the best character actors ever, Robert Forster. Forster owns the screen whenever he appears,
as he usually does - when allowed - in whatever production he is in on TV and the movies. Credit Selleck and cast for letting him steal every scene and getting the best lines(some of the best in the series) in this episode. Almost any other lead actor would never let a guest actor shine like that, TS is indeed a very big man.
Tyler: "I think it's about time we stopped putting conditions on the words freedom, and commitment. You live them or you don't. And that's why we're here."
Magnum, wryly ironic: "And the action."
Tyler, battered & wounded: "Yeah. Only right now the action hurts too much."

As Rick leaves the Thai hotel bar to go off to bed, the B Girl he was partying with coldly makes a remark which the guys picks up on though none of them except
Higgins understands the lingo. Magnum asks what she said. Higgins: "She said she was looking into the eyes of a dead man." Great scene!
I think this episode provides the key to who Rick is with his almost innocent romantic delusions about the daughter of the old villager he later has to gun down as
his training and circumstances requires.
Rick is shattered when he sees the look on his 'beloved's' face when he kills her Dad. Though he was doing his 'duty', for the greater good, Rick seems always to differ
from his comrades in that they are more easily able to put their emotions and humanity in check. Thomas has to walk over and take Rick's pistol away, just in case.
This is as opposed to Magnum, who casual fans of the series mistakenly view as a sports car driving PI in paradise who is merely eye candy for the ladies that he
chases non-stop.
The stone cold warrior Magnum is actually quite dark and not someone you'd ever want to cross in a way that resolves him to decide you are a mortal
threat to him and his own. If the job calls for someone to hunt down the enemy and remorselessly kill, he is your man, be it in Vietnam or home in Hawaii.
Hence Tyler's assessment of Magnum, which a stone faced Magnum can't deny though his new life in Hawaii is his attempt to bury that Magnum
forever -
Tyler: "And you was the best guy I ever seen at going behind the lines and coming back with the scalps."
That would never be Rick or TC. Higgins, yes, maybe that's part of his unspoken bond and shared regret with Magnum.

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Luther's nephew Dobie wrote:
J.J. Walters wrote:I just saw this episode again recently. This one seems to get better with repeated viewings. All for one and one for all! Tyler Peabody McKinney may be my all-time favorite "episode character" of the show. Robert Forster is just fantastic in this role! "Outasight!". :)
Also, when Tyler says Magnum was "the best at bringing back scalps", what exactly does this mean? I've heard of guys bringing back ears and other "things" to prove their "hit count", but never scalps! Is it just a figure of speech?
Hi JJ,
I agree with you 100% on Tyler being a great character portrayed by one of the best character actors ever, Robert Forster. Forster owns the screen whenever he appears,
as he usually does - when allowed - in whatever production he is in on TV and the movies. Credit Selleck and cast for letting him steal every scene and getting the best lines(some of the best in the series) in this episode. Almost any other lead actor would never let a guest actor shine like that, TS is indeed a very big man.
Tyler: "I think it's about time we stopped putting conditions on the words freedom, and commitment. You live them or you don't. And that's why we're here."
Magnum, wryly ironic: "And the action."
Tyler, battered & wounded: "Yeah. Only right now the action hurts too much."

As Rick leaves the Thai hotel bar to go off to bed, the B Girl he was partying with coldly makes a remark which the guys picks up on though none of them except
Higgins understands the lingo. Magnum asks what she said. Higgins: "She said she was looking into the eyes of a dead man." Great scene!
I think this episode provides the key to who Rick is with his almost innocent romantic delusions about the daughter of the old villager he later has to gun down as
his training and circumstances requires.
Rick is shattered when he sees the look on his 'beloved's' face when he kills her Dad. Though he was doing his 'duty', for the greater good, Rick seems always to differ
from his comrades in that they are more easily able to put their emotions and humanity in check. Thomas has to walk over and take Rick's pistol away, just in case.
This is as opposed to Magnum, who casual fans of the series mistakenly view as a sports car driving PI in paradise who is merely eye candy for the ladies that he
chases non-stop.
The stone cold warrior Magnum is actually quite dark and not someone you'd ever want to cross in a way that resolves him to decide you are a mortal
threat to him and his own. If the job calls for someone to hunt down the enemy and remorselessly kill, he is your man, be it in Vietnam or home in Hawaii.
Hence Tyler's assessment of Magnum, which a stone faced Magnum can't deny though his new life in Hawaii is his attempt to bury that Magnum
forever -
Tyler: "And you was the best guy I ever seen at going behind the lines and coming back with the scalps."
That would never be Rick or TC. Higgins, yes, maybe that's part of his unspoken bond and shared regret with Magnum.

Great post! So much to like about this episode...so much to take in. This woulda/coulda/shoulda been a good big screen movie release, IMHO.

Well said Dobie. I also liked the interaction between TC and his helper while trying to refurbish the "chopper"....as I said...so MUCH to take in and like about this video play! :geek:
"C'mon TC...nothing can go wrong!"

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