Jororo Farewell (4.11)
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Actually I'm not a flub spotter. I'm just spending some time catching up as I haven't seen some of these episodes in years, or didn't see all of them in full.
I just happened to see the flubs by fluke and had to get in on the action at least once, lol. There's no way I can compare to some of the other spotters on here
Actually I'm not a flub spotter. I'm just spending some time catching up as I haven't seen some of these episodes in years, or didn't see all of them in full.
I just happened to see the flubs by fluke and had to get in on the action at least once, lol. There's no way I can compare to some of the other spotters on here
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I wouldn't classify these as flubs:Italian Ice wrote:Noticed 3 minor flubs in this one.
1.
During the practice game when Danny slides into Benny at 2nd base, he complains he was tagged up high in the face. Clearly it wasn't even close to the face. You can see he was tagged under his left arm during the slide. It's pretty clear that Danny was safe and slide into second first before he was tagged, yet he was called "out". Tie goes to the runner on that play.....
2.
During the ambush, TM shoots one of the gunmen who then falls over. If he's supposed to be dead, you can clearly see him take a deep breath in the 2nd shot of him laying on the ground. If he survived he would have put up more of a fight or at least tried to run away.....
3.
Danny says he jumped out of the plane before it took off. How did he escape? He wasn't seen jumping out while TM was in front of the plane. The kidnappers probably wouldn't have even started the plane without Danny on it....
What do the rest of you think?
1) Danny appeared to be itching to start a fight, so he exaggerated the nature of the tag. And the umpire simply got the call wrong. This kind of stuff happens all the time in sandlot games.
2) People don't necessary die right away from gunshot wounds. He took a bullet and was down, but still breathing. He may or may not have expired later on, we simply don't know.
3) Maybe Danny simply exited the plane "off camera", before TM enters?
Flubs are a tricky thing. It has to be clearly a flub, otherwise you give the show the benefit of the doubt. Keep trying Italian Ice, you'll get some.
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Haha, way to ruin my fun JJ
Ya, probably the first two you can argue. The last one is probably one of those "how, who, what, when, and where" questions that we're always talking about on here, which is enjoyable to do after seeing an episode. Although if I was a kidnapper I'd make sure the captive is tied up and well guarded before taking off. Would have been nice to see TM get on the plane and fight the kidnappers, and besides the ones he gunned down, we don't see the looks of any others....
Ya, probably the first two you can argue. The last one is probably one of those "how, who, what, when, and where" questions that we're always talking about on here, which is enjoyable to do after seeing an episode. Although if I was a kidnapper I'd make sure the captive is tied up and well guarded before taking off. Would have been nice to see TM get on the plane and fight the kidnappers, and besides the ones he gunned down, we don't see the looks of any others....
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Did anybody else notice that Magnum chambers a round in his .45 and then sticks it in the back part of his jeans, all while sitting in the Ferrari? I'm no expert in handguns, but this surely can't be a safe way to handle a gun. And it would be the absolute worst place to have a gun accidentally go off, right into your derriere!
So this episode feature not one, but two shocking flubs involving Magnum and firearms - the one above and the one mentioned earlier where he loads an Uzi clip with his finger on the trigger, while riding in the chopper!
So this episode feature not one, but two shocking flubs involving Magnum and firearms - the one above and the one mentioned earlier where he loads an Uzi clip with his finger on the trigger, while riding in the chopper!
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By the way, stickball is a New York game, we play Baseball here in the Windy City. There is, however, a Chicago phenonemum called 16 inch softball, when I grew up in California and Minneapolis we called it "kitten ball", but when I laughingly say that to my friends that play, they give me a very angry look and usually hold up a hand with bent fingers that had been broken (it is played without gloves)...........James J. Walters wrote:You mean Rick wasn't playing stickball under the "L", on top of the "K", next to the "M"?
The "L".... hehe, not sure why I referenced it like that in the episode guide. In any event, it's been corrected. Thanks.
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James, Take a look in the first shot at where TM's finger is when he's racking the slide. I guess it's okay, because you can see into the ejection port right down to the top of the empty magazine. There are clearly no bullets in the gun. Still, poor "gunmanship" all around. This is one of my pet peeves about the show. You'd think these guys being "professionals" would know better.James J. Walters wrote:Did anybody else notice that Magnum chambers a round in his .45 and then sticks it in the back part of his jeans, all while sitting in the Ferrari? I'm no expert in handguns, but this surely can't be a safe way to handle a gun. And it would be the absolute worst place to have a gun accidentally go off, right into your derriere!
So this episode feature not one, but two shocking flubs involving Magnum and firearms - the one above and the one mentioned earlier where he loads an Uzi clip with his finger on the trigger, while riding in the chopper!
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No Stickball in Chi-Town, huh? Learn something new every day.Steve wrote:By the way, stickball is a New York game, we play Baseball here in the Windy City.
Yeah, but we're not supposed to notice that part (else, why would he chamber a round with no bullets?). No, he chambers a round, sticks it in the back of his jeans, and then walks over to a little league baseball game(!).N1095A wrote:James, Take a look in the first shot at where TM's finger is when he's racking the slide. I guess it's okay, because you can see into the ejection port right down to the top of the empty magazine. There are clearly no bullets in the gun. Still, poor "gunmanship" all around.
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A bit late with today’s first review; I’ve been watching about Michael Jackson on the TV. I guess it’s really one of those days where you’ll remember where you were when you heard.
[rating=9.0]
Magnum befriends the 12-year-old Crown Prince of Jororo, who is staying on the Estate while in Hawaii to play a Little Leaguers baseball game. But the Prince is under tight security due to the terrorists out to kill him. Not a classic, but likeable in its own way…
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This review contains spoilers.
‘Jororo Farewell’ is one of those ‘Magnum, p.i.’ episode that is far from standing out in one of my all-time favourite stories, but is fairly likeable and enjoyable in it’s own way.
The episode is a semi-sequel to the second season episode ‘The Jororo Kill’; “semi-sequel” in that it makes several references to the events of that story, and marks the return of Russler (although now played by John Saxon), but doesn’t rely on having to have seen that episode to understand this story.
I can’t quite put my finger on what I like about this episode – it’s certainly not perfect, but I did find myself warming to it.
I think a lot of the charm is down to young Wesley Ogata as the Prince, Danny. For a child actor, I found he made the character believable and, for the most part, sympathetic. Strangely, for such a believable child actor, Ogata only has one other credited TV appearance – a very brief role in MPI’s second season feature-length / two-part ‘Memories Are Forever’.
Talking of child actors, I also like Marcus Shimomi as Benny, a member of T.C.’s baseball team. Again, Shimomi plays the part well (and this is coming from someone who is often irritated by terrible child actors). I particularly like the scene where T.C. is driving him around to deliver newspapers.
It is odd that neither Ogata nor Shimomi are listed until the end credits, despite both playing large parts in the story. Presumably the credits department didn’t feel that child performers didn’t deserve high billing!
Anyway, the story itself is a reasonable one, with some nice character moments. The only thing I really have issue with is the final act, where the plot rather loses its way and isn’t sure where to go. The ending is both very rushed, and strange, and lets the rest of the story down.
I really wanted to see what happened to Danny – did he agree to go back home? – but after the impressive but shoehorned in scene of Magnum playing chicken with the plane, we learn awkwardly that Danny “jumped out the rear cargo door before they took off”, and Magnum deciding he needs a spanking! The story really needed a scene after this to round things off better.
…And that is my only gripe with this otherwise reasonable instalment. It isn’t one of the best of the season, but it does have it’s own charm.
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Other notes, bloopers and misc.:
* On the DVD version of this episode, the commercial break before the final act is abridged.
* On the subject of Rick mentioning his mother, who has been mentioned in other episodes to be dead, maybe it could be read this way: Magnum thinks Rick is running a book on the baseball game. Rick says the first thing that comes into his head (about a recipe for his mother) to try and cover up that he IS running a book! Just a thought.
[rating=9.0]
Magnum befriends the 12-year-old Crown Prince of Jororo, who is staying on the Estate while in Hawaii to play a Little Leaguers baseball game. But the Prince is under tight security due to the terrorists out to kill him. Not a classic, but likeable in its own way…
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This review contains spoilers.
‘Jororo Farewell’ is one of those ‘Magnum, p.i.’ episode that is far from standing out in one of my all-time favourite stories, but is fairly likeable and enjoyable in it’s own way.
The episode is a semi-sequel to the second season episode ‘The Jororo Kill’; “semi-sequel” in that it makes several references to the events of that story, and marks the return of Russler (although now played by John Saxon), but doesn’t rely on having to have seen that episode to understand this story.
I can’t quite put my finger on what I like about this episode – it’s certainly not perfect, but I did find myself warming to it.
I think a lot of the charm is down to young Wesley Ogata as the Prince, Danny. For a child actor, I found he made the character believable and, for the most part, sympathetic. Strangely, for such a believable child actor, Ogata only has one other credited TV appearance – a very brief role in MPI’s second season feature-length / two-part ‘Memories Are Forever’.
Talking of child actors, I also like Marcus Shimomi as Benny, a member of T.C.’s baseball team. Again, Shimomi plays the part well (and this is coming from someone who is often irritated by terrible child actors). I particularly like the scene where T.C. is driving him around to deliver newspapers.
It is odd that neither Ogata nor Shimomi are listed until the end credits, despite both playing large parts in the story. Presumably the credits department didn’t feel that child performers didn’t deserve high billing!
Anyway, the story itself is a reasonable one, with some nice character moments. The only thing I really have issue with is the final act, where the plot rather loses its way and isn’t sure where to go. The ending is both very rushed, and strange, and lets the rest of the story down.
I really wanted to see what happened to Danny – did he agree to go back home? – but after the impressive but shoehorned in scene of Magnum playing chicken with the plane, we learn awkwardly that Danny “jumped out the rear cargo door before they took off”, and Magnum deciding he needs a spanking! The story really needed a scene after this to round things off better.
…And that is my only gripe with this otherwise reasonable instalment. It isn’t one of the best of the season, but it does have it’s own charm.
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Other notes, bloopers and misc.:
* On the DVD version of this episode, the commercial break before the final act is abridged.
* On the subject of Rick mentioning his mother, who has been mentioned in other episodes to be dead, maybe it could be read this way: Magnum thinks Rick is running a book on the baseball game. Rick says the first thing that comes into his head (about a recipe for his mother) to try and cover up that he IS running a book! Just a thought.
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Watched this one recently after not having seen it in quite a well. As with most episodes that I'm slightly cold on, it's better than I remembered it. Although, it would have been even better if John Saxon had laid down some karate moves!
I totally forgot about that great climax involving Magnum/Ferrari and a cargo plane! What a great shot that was of the plane taking off just in front of them!
And I loved that nostalgic closeup of the Robotron: 2084 arcade game. That used to be one of my favorites as a young lad. An incredibly fast, intense game with duel joysticks.
I totally forgot about that great climax involving Magnum/Ferrari and a cargo plane! What a great shot that was of the plane taking off just in front of them!
And I loved that nostalgic closeup of the Robotron: 2084 arcade game. That used to be one of my favorites as a young lad. An incredibly fast, intense game with duel joysticks.
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Okay...the first time I ever saw the title of this one, I was hoping it was maybe going to be sort of a sequel to season 2's "Jororo Kill" (with Tyne Daly returning)--which is one of my all-time favorite episodes!
However, this one really had absolutely nothing to do with the first "Jororo" episode. It was okay, though. The action was decent, and I was somewhat interested in finding out who was the one in on the threats/kidnappings of the boy prince. I actually did think it was either John Saxon's character, or that goofy teacher woman...but the prince's softball coach was a good choice too.
I like this one well enough, with the action and Magnum helping the prince. I rated it "pretty good".
However, this one really had absolutely nothing to do with the first "Jororo" episode. It was okay, though. The action was decent, and I was somewhat interested in finding out who was the one in on the threats/kidnappings of the boy prince. I actually did think it was either John Saxon's character, or that goofy teacher woman...but the prince's softball coach was a good choice too.
I like this one well enough, with the action and Magnum helping the prince. I rated it "pretty good".
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This ones decent but nothing special. As always I like the baseball theme. I always enjoy the fact that TC and TM volunteer to help kids, makes both characters even more likeable like their just big kids. I recently watched Enter the Dragon and am a John Saxson fan and agree with an earlier post that he should have had more facetime, especially if it had been a fight! Thought the spanking ending was a bit ridiculous also! Overall decent episode that's worth watching.