Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#51 Post by Kalai-pahoa »

I liked it even though the plot is weak, but the episode is very good overall. It's very interesting and funny to follow the first steps of Magnum as P.I. in 1979. It is particularly important to read the Magnum's phone number on the matchboxes: 'Thomas Magnum Private Investigator 555-2351'.
And now we also know that his first office was located above the shop (ex 'Kahala Furniture') at 3632 Waialae Avenue.
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This is the window of the office
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I guess the entrance was from Koko Head Avenue, behind the corner, through the same door used as entrance of the fictional Kualao Hotel in the episode 'Smaller Than Life'.
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1) in the office we can see a calendar behind Karen's shoulders showing two months (one with 30 days and one with 31 days). I guess it is a calendar of the year 1983 (the ep was aired on March 29, 1984) because there are 2 signs pointing out the date of Thanksgiving Day (it was on the 24th of November) and the date of Christmas Day besides the red Sunday on the 27th of November. This also happened in 1977 so maybe there was an outdated calendar in the office. :D
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2) When Magnum goes to 'The Curl' the first time (about 34'23'') we see 4 persons outside the bar. According to the story Magnum comes back there several hours later (about 43'13''. even wearing different clothes) but surprisingly there are still the same 4 persons outside the bar!
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3) It seems like that they gave Karen the same cheque prize in 1979 and in 1984 :)
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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#52 Post by J.J. Walters »

Kalai-pahoa wrote:2) When Magnum goes to 'The Curl' the first time (about 34'23'') we see 4 persons outside the bar. According to the story Magnum comes back there several hours later (about 43'13''. even wearing different clothes) but surprisingly there are still the same 4 persons outside the bar!
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I've heard that "The Curl" has really good Mai Tai's. They loved it so much they just never left. :)

I just wanted to say thanks for all the great posts (and pics) you've done Kalai-pahoa. I've enjoyed them immensely.
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#53 Post by Kalai-pahoa »

J.J. Walters wrote: I just wanted to say thanks for all the great posts (and pics) you've done Kalai-pahoa. I've enjoyed them immensely.
Hi J.J., You are so kind. And I wanna thank you fot this amazing and outstanding forum full of stuff about our favourite show, with great users, tons of interesting things and ever alive.
After over 30 years we are still here talking about Magnum and his universe. This really proves that this is the best ever tv series.
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#54 Post by Seaver41 »

Doc Fred wrote:
Tuan Vu wrote:
I really liked Higgins' statement: "For the better one feels about oneself, the better the rest of the world looks." There's a lot of truth to that.

Just like Magnum said in this episode, "It's kind of funny how the years can sometimes creep by on you..."
When I saw this for the first time today, I also noted the two quotes you cited.. I find them both quite meaningful and real, particularly Higgie's.
BINGO! Captures a big part of why I love this show.......it makes you think. A trademark of the show that I particularly like is how Magnum's narration at the end often has something poignant to say that crystalizes the thoughts/emotions uncorked in the episode. I guess that is why I missed it so much in the Finale.......so much was left unsaid.

good episode.......Cindy in her better looking days. she really went off deep end in past 10 years. Whether it was the clever intentions of the writers or not, the presentation of the character Cindy played clearly disqualified her as a viable future match for Thomas. She was flaky. She was holding on too hard to a guy she just met who was still not over his true love. Can we say clingy? Then she has a rebound so 'bad' she jumps in the sack and has a kid. Were the writers stereotyping her a female beach bum? We know that would never work for him.

the quotes alone from Higgins and Magnum make it a watchable episode. Who hasn't waxed poetic about their past and choices made? I also liked the quote at the end about Thomas Wolfe about going home again.......well done.

is it me or do these episodes witha that satisfying last moment payoff make you give a thumbs up or a modest fist pump? Sometimes they do for me..... It's a validation that this past hour was well spent. That's why I love the show.

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#55 Post by J.J. Walters »

Seaver41 wrote:is it me or do these episodes with that satisfying last moment payoff make you give a thumbs up or a modest fist pump? Sometimes they do for me..... It's a validation that this past hour was well spent. That's why I love the show.
Definitely! I've been known to point at "MagnumTV" while saying, "Yes!" rather loudly. :)
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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#56 Post by marlboro »

I thought this was a decent episode. Highlights include the Higgins "Surfing on Airplane Wings" story and the Jimmy chase scene.

I think Moseley did a good job directing considering it was his first attempt and the fact that it was an episode intercut with a lot of flashbacks.

One thing that surprised me was the return of Rick's Bogart personae. I think it's great that they are willing to bring up little bits like that considering it hasn't been seen since the pilot episode.It shows confidence in their (pre dvd era) audience to have those little throwbacks.


I would love to see another flashback episode involving Magnum's move to Robins Nest. Scenes involving Rick's "Snow Palace" would be an added bonus.

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#57 Post by Sinjin »

Higgin's 1944 surf contest using Messerschmitt wings for surfboards had to be his most outrageously dubious claim. I laughed out loud at Hillerman's typical droll delivery. Then he admits it was a ridiculous claim.

The multiple flashbacks tend to slow things down. This episode shows us TM at a crossroad in his life, in 1979, when he ultimately decides against a relationship with his first client. Their paths cross again, five years later, and she has a daughter who is four and a half years old. Flashback to 1979, and the two appear to develop a chemistry together. It surprised me when he decides against becoming intimate with her. He explains that it wasn't just about professional ethics, her being his client, but also unresolved feelings for his "dead" wife Michelle. His wife would have been dead (as far as he had known then anyway) for four years. It's not clear why he rejects Karen Teal but ultimately he does. It's practically a convention in private eye fiction to end up falling for a client, and Magnum would not let it stop him on future cases.

It gets difficult to follow the two alternating storylines as far as where one picks up when the other leaves off. The central mystery for both cases are similarly weak. It involves the culture of competitive surfing, a part of island life not often portrayed in this series. The uncredited cameo by Rell Sunn was great to see. Overall this episode has a wistful, sentimental feel about choices made and their consequences.

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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#58 Post by masterengineer »

Just a quick note, I'm a junkie for "N Numbers"
N Number N9267F is a Hughes
Model: 369HS
Year built: 1975
Construction Number (C/N): 1150778S

This Helicopter appears in the flashback portions of the episode as the Ken Enderlin charter craft T.C. Pilots before he was able to save up and buy His Hughes 500D for Island Hoppers charter service.

Additionally the same craft appears much later in Season 7, Episode "Missing Melody" when T.C.s kidnapped daughter is recovered, Albeit sporting a different paint job.

The Craft has been owned by Heli-Logistics in Hawaii for many years. and is possibly a production craft that many of the areal shots of N1095A (T.C.s Island hoppers bird) were shot from.

Another side note I found funny, Hughes 500Ds were what Jean Bruce Scott flew in the first few episodes of Airwolf as a Texas state highway patrol officer, and she played Mac's replacement after he was killed in season 2 or 3. On Magnum she played Navy LTC. Maggie Poole.

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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#59 Post by Hawaii Winds »

Dont forget, Karen Teal made a great "ratitouille"!

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Re: Dream A Little Dream (4.20)

#60 Post by EZiller »

Magnum with a mullet. The episode has an interesting concept, TM in his early, humble beginnings as a PI. Otherwise, it's a rather dull story. Rick always looked like an idiot in the early episodes or flashbacks when he was trying to do the Bogart thing from "Casablanca." BTW, Bogie didn't wear a mustache. On Rick it looks like a porn stache. Karen Teal has a nice figure, but otherwise didn't do too much for me. Although she has a nice fireplace in her mobile home. [???]

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#61 Post by ConchRepublican »

EZiller wrote:Karen Teal has a nice figure, but otherwise didn't do too much for me. Although she has a nice fireplace in her mobile home. [???]

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#62 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

In the end Magnum says "Maybe Thomas Wolfe was right, maybe you can't go home anymore. But it sure as hell is worth a try" as he holds her child. Are we supposed to believe they're back together? How come we never see her again?

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#63 Post by Milton Collins »

Don't care for this episode at all. I found Karen Teague to be annoying and just a totally boring character which made for an even more boring episode. The only thing I enjoyed was seeing early day post Navy TM, hilarious mullet! And also Rick on the beach in his Bogart getup, I'm wondering if that was the first time he threatened Rick into doing something with the truth about his real name as it certainly wasn't the last lol.

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#64 Post by MaximRecoil »

I hate the S-10 based Blazer/Jimmy; it is cheap, under-powered, and in my experience, not put together very well. The fullsize Blazer/Jimmy had much better screen presence. They made the fullsize Blazer/Jimmy, using the same body style as the original one on MPI, until 1991, so there wasn't any reason to "update" it in 1984.

Plus I hate aftermarket wheels which have the wrong offset, making them stick out past the wheel openings, so their choice of wheels made this particular compact Jimmy even worse. Note that the fullsize Jimmy had aftermarket wheels too, but they had a proper offset for the vehicle:

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Compare that to these ridiculous wheels ...

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... which make it look like a roller skate. Wheels with an improper offset (i.e., negative offset) are also hard on ball joints and other suspension and steering components.

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#65 Post by MagnumILWU »

Haven't liked this episode since it first air! And it hasn't gotten better over time! It's on Encore today, and I can't even watch it! The story line, the characters, nothing appeals to me! Just a weak, weak episode!
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