The Jororo Kill (2.13)

[rubber chicken]

You are correct Carol. I checked the subtitles and it's Veil not Vale. Opps! Thanks for the correction (I changed my above post).

Though a holy valley could work on Oahu. Ka'a'awa Valley was "in ancient times, one of the most sacred places on the island." It could have been a nice melding between Hawaiian past and present. But I doubt a Hawaiian valley would have much significance to the Catholic Church.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I wouldn't put too much faith in the subtitles. Just off the top of my head, they've had "hand glider" instead of "hang glider", "pau'ana" instead of "pau hana", "bro" instead of "brah" -- and when Saul (in "Never Again") asked the KKC bar tender for "two cents plain," they merely said he was "[speaking Yiddish]."

[IslandHopper]

MPI collectors may find this interesting. During the last scene when TC and Rick are listening in on Higgins' wine tasting, the telephone/intercom they are listening in on is a "Radio Shack Duofone 16." The thing I found interesting about this is that the word "Shack" in Radio Shack is blacked out by an oval piece of tape or other material, so only the word "Radio" is visible. Even with the word "Shack" blacked out, it is still obvious that the phone is a Radio Shack as their font style is distinctive, not to mention that the black oval piece of tape is oddly out of place on the phone. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by their attempt to hide a product name since MPI has used fictitious names for various products throughout the series, e.g., Coops, Old Düsseldorf, Tiller Beer, Flagler Beer, Day-N-Dark, etc. But, then again, there were many brand names used during the show, e.g., Ferrari, Audi, VW, Rolex, Seiko, Royal (Higgins’ Typewriter), Puma, Safeway, Izod/Lacoste, Gatorade, Diet Coke, various team names (Detroit Tigers, Atlanta Falcons, Los Angeles Lakers). The different brand names and fictional names used on the show might make an interesting thread.

The scene itself was great because Rick, in an effort to turn up the volume on the phone/intercom hits the wrong button and releases tear gas on Higgins and his fellow wine connoisseurs. This is ironic because Higgins presumably installed this as a security precaution to be used on Magnum when he is caught pilfering wine. As the gas is pouring out from beneath the closed door, you can hear Higgins say (above all of the coughing and choking sounds) "Magnum, you irresponsible cretin..."

Excellent episode.

[J.J. Walters]

An amusing flub can be seen during the church shootout. The priest and two altar boys never move, or duck down, during the gun battle! Guys are getting hit all around them, yet they never take cover!



Several seconds later, with a couple of guys directly in front of them already hit and on the floor...



Maybe they were too scared to react? Maybe they were just super confident God would save them?

Lastly, the denouement features a Robin's Nest indoor set I don't think I've ever seen before. It's a room with dark-colored brick that is adjacent to Higgins' study. Am I missing something? Was this set only used for ONE brief scene?

[Doc Ibold]

Hmmmm.

Good call James. I had always assumed that that room was somewhere in the KKC, but never really looked at the background (although it HAS been a while since I saw this ep. - I'm on a Magnum sabbatical for a little bit. Keeps the episodes fresher)



I think MAYBE this may have been used again (see Basket Case or Letter To A Duchess) for what appears to be an outdoor dining room. In this instance, it looks like it was shown from a completely different angle (if it is the same room) and the dining room sets had a bigger table.

[grundle]

The Pittsburgh RTN station played "The Jororo Kill" on Monday. The scene in France had the same English subtitles that are on the DVD. It also had the opening teaser, and the season 2 opening. I think they may be playing the DVD, or at least a tape from the master that was used to make the DVD.

They played it again on Wednesday night. And again, it had the subtitles, and the season 2 opening. But the opening teaser was not played. I guess they wanted more time for commercials.

[grundle]

I don't know if this is a flub or not, but Magnum starts to smile before Higgins tells him that David Bannister liked to dress up as a woman.

[N1095A]

Lastly, the denouement features a Robin's Nest indoor set I don't think I've ever seen before. It's a room with dark-colored brick that is adjacent to Higgins' study. Am I missing something? Was this set only used for ONE brief scene?

I was watching "Mac's Back" today and noticed the same brick when TM was standing in the outside doorway of the study.

[Olivier]

When Higgins and Magnum are talking in the wine cellar, there is a shot of the steps behind them. Looks like the steps down into the guesthouse. I wonder if they "recycled" the stage set.

Yes I think they do.





Six identical steps with the first larger. They closed the half of the window.


For this episode I noticed "David Banister" has exactly the same bicycle as Magnum in "Beauty knows no pain" ([1.18] when he competes in the Ironman Triathlon).




It' s a "Piaggio" (italian brand) :

[IKnowWhatYoureThinking]

Nice catch guys. Apparently I am not watching close enough!

[rubber chicken]

Very interesting! The same knife was also used in multiple episodes - the Buck Special.

[Lt. Dupree]

FYI for Rubber Chicken: The 'South of France' scene is the La Pietra School for Girls (http://www.lapietra.edu/). The site was used numerous times in Magnum for a variety of episodes. La Pietra is an admired school in Honolulu.

La Pietra is located at the southwest face of Diamond Head and close to the studios. If you go to the La Pietra site, click on 'Campus Photos'. You will be able to recognize the buildings and the elegant entrance.

Kaumakapilli Church is just NW of downtown Honolulu. Next door is Tamashiro Market -- a famous seafood store for locals. Much of the crew purchased poki and lomi lomi salmon from Tamashiro on the day of the shoot.

Across the street from Kaumakapili is Princess Ka'iulani School, an elementary one, named after a famous Hawaiian princess whom died at an early age. I taught reading there from 1986-1990.

There are photos I have of Tom and I reading the sports page from the set of 'The Jororo Kill' as well as one with Tom, Tyne Daly, and I in a scene atthe front of the church. I will try to share those soon. I had just a small silent bit in the 'Jororo', my first one.

I think the 'Jororo' story may have been paralled to the orginal film, 'The Day of the Jackel'. On set, the actor (nun) was so well costumed I think it confused some of the testosterone that day.

[rubber chicken]

Hi Andy, let me give you another (late) welcome to site! It's great to hear from people connected to the show!

Thanks for pointing out the locations. These are what I have...


I have the La Pietra School for Girls location being used for two episodes. Fellow forum member Sam first pointed it out to me. So far I know of it being used for...

"The South of France" in The Jororo Kill (2.13)
&
"The Palace of King Fernando Mongueo" in Who is Don Luis Higgins, and Why is He Doing These Terrible Things to Me? (6.19)


And of course as you well know, Kaumakapili Church was "Our Lady of the Holy Veil convent" in The Jororo Kill (2.13)

Thanks for mentioning Tamashiro Market, it sounds like a wonderful place to eat. Did you ever visit the Chinese bakery Shung Chong Yuein on Maunakea Street in Chinatown? It was seen in Little Girl Who (7.7), and probably other episodes. I've never been to Oahu, let alone that bakery, but I was sad to discover that it closed in 2007 after 45 years in business (due to the retirement of the owner).



I see the Princess Ka'iulani School opened in 1899, the year of her death. Sad that she was only 23 years old.


I'm sure everyone here would love to see your photos!

The Day of the Jackal is one of my favorite movies, although I've only seen it a few times. It's fascinating to watch Edward Fox going about all the steps necessary to carry out his task.


Someone in these photos looks familiar...

[Lt. Dupree]

Thanks for the welcome Rubber Chicken. But...

Geepers! How does everyone get those pics? I have very few. Yep, me though. Thanks. I think I still have that tie somewhere.

Cannot remember if we have ever been to Shung Chong. Likely have passed by it. I was 'on call' while those scene's were being shot. There are many hole in the wall restaurants in China Town and most are really good.

One place I would go to on Sunday morning for my kids was located on Pauahi and Smith (no name). We would buy 'manapua' (char su pork bun) and 'pork hash' (a steamed pork dumpling). I think the little place supplied numerous businesses with the products.

The Hotel Street/China Town area used to be the place for ranky strip clubs, hookers, and the like. Sometimes, the smells were a cross of chop suey, cat urine mixed with pavement, and topped-off with bus exhaust. The area is crowded on any day and busy at 8am and 5pm. Don't know if that has changed.

Just near Nimitz and Maunakea, I had my first 'fried tofu' dinner. The dinner had a sheet of tofu, mac salad, and some dipping sauce.

Also FYI, whenever we were downtown shooting some of the crew would go to another little place on River Street and Kukui. Do not remember the name. Could have been named Hanagasa Inn. However, they served great Teriyaki and a dish called 'chicken adobo'. The chicken adobo being the first choice.

After a night of too many mai tai's at the 'Top Of the I' (since renamed), I would get the chicken adobo. The dish seemed to take the edge off of the previous evening.

Another FYI, Julie Nickson ('model girl', Rambo) was proposed too by the owner of the new Top of the I and Nicolas Nicholas. She did not accept. I last saw Julie in Beverly Hills fall of 2000.

Sorry for dovetailing

[rubber chicken]

The pictures are screenshots that are taken from the Magnum P.I. DVDs when playing them on our computers. So when you mentioned your part in this episode, I thought I'd seek it out and let others see without going back to the dvd themselves.

... the smells were a cross of chop suey, cat urine mixed with pavement, and topped-off with bus exhaust.

Thank you, I almost feel as if I'm there!

You've mentioned Hawaiian Heat in other posts. I wish a DVD for the show would come out so I could see it.

And thanks again for you posts and remembrances in the forum. Go ahead and dovetail as much as you like, I read each of your posts with great interest.