Lest We Forget (1.10)

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10 (Perfect!)
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6%
9.5 (One of the Best)
28
24%
9.0 (Excellent)
38
32%
8.5 (Very Good)
19
16%
8.0 (Pretty Good)
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7.5 (Decent)
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7.0 (Average at Best)
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3%
6.5 (Not So Good)
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5.0 (Just Awful)
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Visiting Stewardess
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#46 Post by Visiting Stewardess »

Ahhaaaaaaaa! So this is why the actors from the past and the 80's-present looked so much alike!! They are real-life family!!!!!

That poor dog at the beginning that had to jump in the water! You can see how he (or she, they also used female dogs) is really unhappy about having to jump! Doberman Pinschers really don't like water at all!
My German Pinscher is almost fighting to the death if I try to make her swim!
So this dog's body is all twisted.

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The dog tries to delay the contact with the water as long as possible, so he/she twists her legs up. Awwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Fantastic story, good jokes and an all round excellent episode.
The cuuuuuuuuute dogs bringing towel and shoes really did it for me, I awwww-ed out loud and hugged my own little Zeus/Apollo, who was sitting on the sofa next to me.

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#47 Post by Magnum T. »

I don't know VS, you maybe right.
I have always looked at that strange way of jumping as a combination of excitement and (maybe) a little slip on the wet rock.
Anyway very cute moment!
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#48 Post by Visiting Stewardess »

Well, having learnt a lot about Pinschers in the last 6 years I can tell you they are not made for water!!!
Also watch the dog, after he/she (I think it's a female judging by the shape of the body and head) puts Magnum's towel down. It pulls up its left front leg. My dog does that when it rains and we have to stop at traffic lights. She pulls up her legs, to have as little contact with the wet ground as possible. It makes me laugh every time.
Watching that dog on the slab in the water reminded me of that. Soooo funny! :lol:

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#49 Post by MaiTaiMan »

Just watched this one again the other night...for the 3rd time this summer! LOL! :lol: Out of all the awesome episodes of the series (and even though the eerie or psychological suspenseful ones are mostly my favorites too)...I still think this episode is my all-time favorite! :D
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#50 Post by Danno »

I love the first season. Just finished watching this one again.
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#51 Post by Seaver41 »

my wife even got sucked into watching this one with me.........very enjoyable. I am pleasantly surprised by how much I have forgotten. Major plot lines in the episodes I recall, but I can watch these episodes and enjoy the hell out if because it has been so long.

I still say the best part of watching them now is that having been through it all originally, seeing the relationship develop between Magnum and his friends (even Higgins) is fun.

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#52 Post by MaiTaiMan »

Seaver41 wrote:my wife even got sucked into watching this one with me.........very enjoyable. I am pleasantly surprised by how much I have forgotten. Major plot lines in the episodes I recall, but I can watch these episodes and enjoy the hell out if because it has been so long.

I still say the best part of watching them now is that having been through it all originally, seeing the relationship develop between Magnum and his friends (even Higgins) is fun.
Exactly...very well put! :D
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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#53 Post by Mark R.Y. »

Higgy_baby wrote:
Agatha wrote:Great avatar of a young John Hillerman, Higgy-baby!! I hear that he was a regular on the Ellery Queen series with Jim Hutton but haven't figured out how to watch the episodes. My guess is that the series happened when Mr Hillerman was about the age that he is in your avatar.

Very dapper!!

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Thank you my dear Agatha. I've prepared Tea with Devon cream, Strawberries and Scones for you on the patio.

Ellery Queen is supposedy available:
http://www.thevintagetheatre.com/elleryqueen.html
(Hillerman is in a photo half way down the page)

I have not ordered anything from this site so check it out if you consider doing so.

I think my Avatar is a little older. I'm not sure of it's origin, because I shamelessly stole it from a site that made no reference to its' context. I can tell you that the unclipped photo has Hillerman in front of a blackboard with a date of Nov. 14th 1951 on it. I have no Idea if that date is remotely current with the photo nor whether or not Hillerman is acting a part in which he is a teacher.

But I digress. Your tea is getting cold.

Ah! You probably have indentified that Hillerman pic by now, Higgy baby, but I just wanted to note that it's from the 1971 movie "The Last Picture Show" which takes place in '51.

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#54 Post by Bes »

Rewatched this last night and it's still an excellent episode.

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#55 Post by Sisophous »

Not sure I should bring this up but since we have so many critique experts that point out the most intricate details I thought some may appreciate my latest encounter. So........... I did this for you.

During the opening 3 minutes of this EPISODE, LEST WE FORGET, there is a Beach Scene at Night, on a blanket that is a flashback to the eve of the Pearl Harbor attack. There is a guy and girl necking, kissing only, and they go from the ground to standing up. If you look closely, the guy has a full ERECTION inside his shorts as he is standing upright. I kid you not. Before you criticize my post, go view it for yourself and view it in slow motion and you will see for yourself.

According to the credits I have, it is the actor by the name of Miguel Ferrer [episode character name: Ensign Robert 'Bobby' Wickes (1941)]. It could be a substitute fill in but I doubt it, I think he just got aroused and the director ignored it.

Keep in mind I did not look for this bulge in the guy's pants, but it shocked me the director would include this footage thinking the public would not recognize it, likely because it was a nighttime scene.

How disgusting, I thought this was a clean show.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed this episode.

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#56 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

The actor who plays the boorish patron at the club in the beginning of the episode is the same one who played the Hollywood agent just a few episodes before in Skin Deep.

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#57 Post by steveadl »

Found a flub! Or at least a crew visible shot.

When Higgins is waiting on the Guest House lanai, middle and far left of screen at 17:33 - a crew member is standing to the front left of the Guest House. He moves his head (hair and top of forehead) into the shot as Higgins walks around and keeps it there for the duration of the shot. 8)

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#58 Post by EZiller »

One of the things I love about MPI, taking place in the 1980's they were still able to include characters and plot lines dealing people who had been around Oahu during the Pearl attack on 12/7/41 or who had been stationed in Hi. in WW2, who may now be in their late 50's and above. This may have been one of the first episodes dealing with the how the attack forever changed Hawaii from being a sleepy island paradise and how it would change everyone who was there. Jose Ferrer, as always was excellent, nice touch giving him a last name of "Caine" a nod to his role as the defense attorney in "The Caine Mutiny." I guess it would have been too much to have had June Lockhart owning a pet collie. Also liked the subtle references to "From Here To Eternity" the flashback using Ferrer's and Lockhart's kids playing them 40 years earlier was quite reminiscent of FHTE. Also liked the ending, the Judge realizing that finally getting back with the love of his life after 40 years meant much more than the professional accolades of being a Justice of the Supreme Court.

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#59 Post by BWheelz54 »

This has become my favorite MPI episode. I regard the story in this episode as the most subtle and richest story told throughout the series. Love the depth of all the characters involved. These characters are not simply "good" or "bad." They are real people caught up in events larger than themselves. The show developed a sympathy for the judge and his lost love. But, though you are sympathetic to their choices, this episode forces you to be reminded that the choices you make, no matter how difficult they so often are, have real consequences - in war, in life, in love. Just a really smart use of flashbacks and history. And reading this thread, I've become aware of such intelligent nods to other films. This one to me is a perfect ten out of ten. And I will show this episode to anyone who foolishly thinks MPI is all about mustaches, and cars, and a bunch of men partying in the Hawaiian paradise. So good.

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#60 Post by Little Garwood »

I voted this one an 8.0 [Pretty Good].

I like Magnum's immediate cynicism regarding Caine, especially when the latter had done some behind-the-scenes research on our man Thomas. Magnum's wary of anyone in a position of power at this early stage of the series and it shows in this episode, which is a far cry from the TM who re-upped in the Navy and once again became an establishment figure by series' end, except it wasn't an ambivalent one. "Grown up", indeed. :roll:

Anne Lockhart is a beauty, but when I was a kid, I referred to her as "The Cry Lady." No matter what character she played--she was also "Sheba" on Battlestar Galactica--Lockhart often had that sad face, even when the emotion didn't call for it.

Kudos for having the legendary Scatman Crothers in this episode. As for Jose Ferrer, "Lest We Forget" was made just before his memorable role in the Woody Allen film A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy, where he was an arrogant college professor. "I didn't create the universe, I merely explain it."
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