The Black Orchid (1.16)
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Oops! Meant season 1 not season 2 (not that season two doesn't also:))
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This one was REALLY strange. I couldn't come up with whom had the bigger mental disorder between the sisters. Both were, clearly, not on good terms with reality. Then Magnum did not fit the profile of what was needed for the "game" yet was hired and paid triple his normal fee.
While I felt the episode was good overall it was really bizzare.They never explained a lot of why Windham would send guys with loaded guns that fired shots if he was simply looking to "scare" Magnum and his wife. It was also unexplained why the one sister wanted to murder her sister. I could only guess at there being mental illness. This was also not so much of a "case" as it was Magnum being wrapped up in some kind of play that he only half heartedly did which made it more bizzare.
I thought the show was very well acted which saved it for me. Magnum's typical determination to get answers to something despite not officially working on the matter made it kind of a strong episode. It's also one of the few times TC and Rick worked for Magnum and there wasn't any real potential danger.
While I felt the episode was good overall it was really bizzare.They never explained a lot of why Windham would send guys with loaded guns that fired shots if he was simply looking to "scare" Magnum and his wife. It was also unexplained why the one sister wanted to murder her sister. I could only guess at there being mental illness. This was also not so much of a "case" as it was Magnum being wrapped up in some kind of play that he only half heartedly did which made it more bizzare.
I thought the show was very well acted which saved it for me. Magnum's typical determination to get answers to something despite not officially working on the matter made it kind of a strong episode. It's also one of the few times TC and Rick worked for Magnum and there wasn't any real potential danger.
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The unmarried sister was actually in love with the rich old guy. She knew him before her sister did, and blamed her sister for "stealing" him from her.SignGuyHPW wrote:
They never explained a lot of why Windham would send guys with loaded guns that fired shots if he was simply looking to "scare" Magnum and his wife. It was also unexplained why the one sister wanted to murder her sister. I could only guess at there being mental illness. This was also not so much of a "case" as it was Magnum being wrapped up in some kind of play that he only half heartedly did which made it more bizarre.
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Ah, I overlooked that part. I caught that the unmarried one was his secretary at some point.marlboro wrote:The unmarried sister was actually in love with the rich old guy. She knew him before her sister did, and blamed her sister for "stealing" him from her.SignGuyHPW wrote:
They never explained a lot of why Windham would send guys with loaded guns that fired shots if he was simply looking to "scare" Magnum and his wife. It was also unexplained why the one sister wanted to murder her sister. I could only guess at there being mental illness. This was also not so much of a "case" as it was Magnum being wrapped up in some kind of play that he only half heartedly did which made it more bizarre.
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Who plays "Mabel Dodge" in "The Black Orchid"? She is seen at the end of the episode getting out of a car at the Estate. Not credited at the end of the episode. Not found in a search of the Forum of the website and not in Hawaiian Peaches in the website. Also, not listed in Cast and Crew at various sites around the web. DDD
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We don't know, but she's a beauty.
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I like this episode, it holds up after numerous viewings. The plot is kind of far-fetched, but its enjoyable to watch which is what really matters. What I don't get though, is why hire a private investigator to play act. Why not hire an actor or a drama student from the university or community college? What's the connection between a PI (er, private investigator) and play acting? Oh well, its just a fictional show so I shouldn't ask so many questions.
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'You have a light?'
'No' (nasal voice) 'No'
'You and Marble Arch...'
'Mabel Dodge'
'No' (nasal voice) 'No'
'You and Marble Arch...'
'Mabel Dodge'
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Good show,very memorable for me but maybe the strangest plot of all episodes. I loved the ending.
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Cherry Valance!marlboro wrote:The unmarried sister was actually in love with the rich old guy. She knew him before her sister did, and blamed her sister for "stealing" him from her.SignGuyHPW wrote:
They never explained a lot of why Windham would send guys with loaded guns that fired shots if he was simply looking to "scare" Magnum and his wife. It was also unexplained why the one sister wanted to murder her sister. I could only guess at there being mental illness. This was also not so much of a "case" as it was Magnum being wrapped up in some kind of play that he only half heartedly did which made it more bizarre.
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Dumb plot. This was a "good" character for Judith Chapman who seems to be a renowned Soap Opera star. I really don't like either episode she was in. That being said, the whole "Mable Dodge" build up leads to a real classic ending. Love it!
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"Who played Mabel Dodge" (uncredited)
I wonder if she might have been a real interior designer working in Hawaii, perhaps the designer of the home of somebody in the cast/crew.J.J. Walters wrote:We don't know, but she's a beauty.
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It's funny that I watch a beautiful actress play a character who just wants to escape reality so that I can escape reality myself! I would love to play that game lol.
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Really a helpful post
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1.16 THE BLACK ORCHID
Hawaiian shirts: 1
Island Hopper shirts:
Magnum Body Count: 1
Magnum gunshot wounds:
Shirtless: 3
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 2
When I write HTBAWCPI:
Investigator corrections:
Higgins musings:
4th wall breaks: 1
Negotiations: 1
Famous guest stars:
Magnumometer: 9
Potential magnumania usernames: Mabel Dodge, Black Orchid
Definitely think I found a new flub. At about 13:00 TM says "I know what you’re thinking, after the phony beach attack I should have said goodbye to Louise and meant it. But you know something, I was starting to have a good time." The phony beach attack hasn't happened yet, it starts at about 19:00.
Someone mentioned a potential flub in beach locations when TM and the Black Orchid are talking on the beach after she rolls up in the Rolls. I don't think it can count as a flub. While they definitely aren't on the beach at the estate IRL, it is theoretically possible in the Magnuverse they had just walked beyond the tidal pool in either direction. I don't believe in the show we are ever shown the Shriners Club section of the beach. In theory they could be up there, or have gone past the sea wall to the south, depending on the tide. In one of the Michelle episodes, I believe it is implied that TC and Michelle have gone for a walk on that part of beach south of the estate.
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of this episode, the plot just requires too much suspension of disbelief and I think the Black Orchid's character is just too over the top. And I love Judith Chapman in Woman on the Beach, so it's definitely the writing, not the acting.
My favorite line is from Wyndom Jackson (and this is the only thing about his character I do like - although I'd take his limo too - the Caddy, not the Rolls):
I was just trying to scare you. I'm sorry they got carried away. Now, if that's not good enough for you, we
can fight. You're younger than I am and stronger maybe, so you'd probably win. But I'm richer than you
are, so in the end I'll beat you.
You can file that under "the truth hurts."
And last but not least, it wouldn't be a trip to the hospital without a page:
[ Woman On P.A.]
Dr. Mort Levy,
please report to surgery.
Dr. Mort Levy,
please report to surgery.
Hawaiian shirts: 1
Island Hopper shirts:
Magnum Body Count: 1
Magnum gunshot wounds:
Shirtless: 3
Little Voice:
I know what you’re thinking: 2
When I write HTBAWCPI:
Investigator corrections:
Higgins musings:
4th wall breaks: 1
Negotiations: 1
Famous guest stars:
Magnumometer: 9
Potential magnumania usernames: Mabel Dodge, Black Orchid
Definitely think I found a new flub. At about 13:00 TM says "I know what you’re thinking, after the phony beach attack I should have said goodbye to Louise and meant it. But you know something, I was starting to have a good time." The phony beach attack hasn't happened yet, it starts at about 19:00.
Someone mentioned a potential flub in beach locations when TM and the Black Orchid are talking on the beach after she rolls up in the Rolls. I don't think it can count as a flub. While they definitely aren't on the beach at the estate IRL, it is theoretically possible in the Magnuverse they had just walked beyond the tidal pool in either direction. I don't believe in the show we are ever shown the Shriners Club section of the beach. In theory they could be up there, or have gone past the sea wall to the south, depending on the tide. In one of the Michelle episodes, I believe it is implied that TC and Michelle have gone for a walk on that part of beach south of the estate.
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of this episode, the plot just requires too much suspension of disbelief and I think the Black Orchid's character is just too over the top. And I love Judith Chapman in Woman on the Beach, so it's definitely the writing, not the acting.
My favorite line is from Wyndom Jackson (and this is the only thing about his character I do like - although I'd take his limo too - the Caddy, not the Rolls):
I was just trying to scare you. I'm sorry they got carried away. Now, if that's not good enough for you, we
can fight. You're younger than I am and stronger maybe, so you'd probably win. But I'm richer than you
are, so in the end I'll beat you.
You can file that under "the truth hurts."
And last but not least, it wouldn't be a trip to the hospital without a page:
[ Woman On P.A.]
Dr. Mort Levy,
please report to surgery.
Dr. Mort Levy,
please report to surgery.
Ensign Healy
Scholar in Residence
The Institute for Advanced Magnum Studies
"I woke up one day at 53 and realized I'd never been 23."
Scholar in Residence
The Institute for Advanced Magnum Studies
"I woke up one day at 53 and realized I'd never been 23."