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#41 Post by ThomasMagnum »

Hi folks, haven't been much on MM lately but I've recently been working on finding more info on Gillian - I'm happy to report that I've found her final resting place.

Couple of things first - some of the information I posted previously was incorrect:

Her Maiden name was Wells, not Johnson. Please ignore the previous information regarding her Parents & London address . (Although the rest of the info is correct)

Her address at time of birth is the following:
133 Battersea Rise, Wandsworth, London SW11, UK
Her mother was Phyllis Alice Wells nee Pullen (1900 - 1976) , her Father was Harold Augustus Wells (1900 - 1998) - They married in 1924 (Wandsworth, London, England)
They had 2 girls - Gillian and Valerie (1928 - 2004) who married a Canadian named Thomas Benton Davies (1926 - 2001)

This is their headstone

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Location: Carlisle United Church, 1432 Centre Rd, Hamilton, ON L0R 2H0, Canada

The key piece of information which confirms that this is in fact Agatha is that her SSN (of the Gillian who died on March 31, 2001) matches the one that applied for U.S. Citizenship in 1961 who at the time was married to Mr Dobb. I was ultimately unable to sight the obituary from The Hamilton Spectator.

The reason why I think she ends up on the Canada after Hawaii (and ultimately dies NY State, just over the border) is because her sister and brother in law (who is a Canadian native) are living there and probably her only relatives left. Her mum and dad appear to have separated when she was young hence why they are not buried together. Her dad is buried in Poole, England. I believe he might have remarried at some stage but I haven't really looked into that.

I have been in contact with a relative of the Wells via email who sent me details which corroborates my theory.

I have also found out that her ex husband was previously married (as at 1958) - this is his obituary from 2008 which appeared in a Nevada newspaper

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The wife mentioned in this obituary is in fact his 3rd. Also interesting to note that Gillian was married to a Vietnam Vet and how it all ties in to the show. His file shows 2 TOD in Vietnam with the USAF however I cannot confirm in which unit or where he was stationed.

Regarding Bayonne, New Jersey - The reason why they married there is: It was Mr Dobb's hometown.

In 1950 she moved to Australia. Her address given on her arrival is
11 Dafforne Road, London SW17 8TY UK
and this is the address given as to where she would be staying in Australia
C/O UK High Commissioner's Office, Canberra
There only thing that I could come up with is that she was working there as a secretary (she listed herself as a Secretary/Typist)! She must have applied for the job in London. I knew she worked with the Canberra Repertory Society as a prompter in 1952 so it makes sense.

See this article , where it talks about her leaving London in 1950 for Australia.

I only have one question: why didn't she just drop her married name her use her maiden name after 1977?

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Excellent investigative work TM!
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#43 Post by 308GUY »

That's some super sleuthing there! :magnum:

History is always interesting to me. You certainly did some deep digging here!

Thanks for taking the time and posting your findings. Great stuff.
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ThomasMagnum wrote:Hi folks, haven't been much on MM lately but I've recently been working on finding more info on Gillian - I'm happy to report that I've found her final resting place.

Couple of things first - some of the information I posted previously was incorrect:

Her Maiden name was Wells, not Johnson. Please ignore the previous information regarding her Parents & London address . (Although the rest of the info is correct)

Her address at time of birth is the following:
133 Battersea Rise, Wandsworth, London SW11, UK
Her mother was Phyllis Alice Wells nee Pullen (1900 - 1976) , her Father was Harold Augustus Wells (1900 - 1998) - They married in 1924 (Wandsworth, London, England)
They had 2 girls - Gillian and Valerie (1928 - 2004) who married a Canadian named Thomas Benton Davies (1926 - 2001)

This is their headstone

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Location: Carlisle United Church, 1432 Centre Rd, Hamilton, ON L0R 2H0, Canada

The key piece of information which confirms that this is in fact Agatha is that her SSN (of the Gillian who died on March 31, 2001) matches the one that applied for U.S. Citizenship in 1961 who at the time was married to Mr Dobb. I was ultimately unable to sight the obituary from The Hamilton Spectator.

The reason why I think she ends up on the Canada after Hawaii (and ultimately dies NY State, just over the border) is because her sister and brother in law (who is a Canadian native) are living there and probably her only relatives left. Her mum and dad appear to have separated when she was young hence why they are not buried together. Her dad is buried in Poole, England. I believe he might have remarried at some stage but I haven't really looked into that.

I have been in contact with a relative of the Wells via email who sent me details which corroborates my theory.

I have also found out that her ex husband was previously married (as at 1958) - this is his obituary from 2008 which appeared in a Nevada newspaper

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The wife mentioned in this obituary is in fact his 3rd. Also interesting to note that Gillian was married to a Vietnam Vet and how it all ties in to the show. His file shows 2 TOD in Vietnam with the USAF however I cannot confirm in which unit or where he was stationed.

Regarding Bayonne, New Jersey - The reason why they married there is: It was Mr Dobb's hometown.

In 1950 she moved to Australia. Her address given on her arrival is
11 Dafforne Road, London SW17 8TY UK
and this is the address given as to where she would be staying in Australia
C/O UK High Commissioner's Office, Canberra
There only thing that I could come up with is that she was working there as a secretary (she listed herself as a Secretary/Typist)! She must have applied for the job in London. I knew she worked with the Canberra Repertory Society as a prompter in 1952 so it makes sense.

See this article , where it talks about her leaving London in 1950 for Australia.

I only have one question: why didn't she just drop her married name her use her maiden name after 1977?
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#45 Post by KENJI »

Nice home run TM!!!
Excellent work.

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Imdb says she appeared in an episode of Hawaii Five-0 in 1980 as a character named Gertrude Firth. Anyone know what episode that was? I'm not a fan of season 12 since there's no James MacArthur, so I don't see myself purchasing that season on DVD.

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#48 Post by ThomasMagnum »

Found this in the 1980 Honolulu White Pages

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Cades Schutte website: http://www.cades.com - (Formerly known as Cades Schutte Fleming & Wright) this confirms previous info I came across.

Marvin is her ex husband... Interesting how she decided to keep the name of the ex-husband.

She also shows up in 1977 however her husband does not.

This is from 1978, she is listed twice - first one is the private residence, the other being her workplace:

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That address is in Waikiki. Not sure who Sheedy Dobb is, could be her stepdaughter. Address is the same as Marvin's.

In 1979 her address is the same as above.
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#49 Post by ThomasMagnum »

In addition to my previous post - I think she died in NY state because she was a U.S. citizen and was probably entitled to some care which she might have not otherwise received in Canada.

Those in the US might want to chime in on this as I could be wrong. It's the only logical conclusion I was able to reach.

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#50 Post by Rembrandt's Girl »

Hi TM,

I found this site, which says she passed in Lancaster, NY: http://death-records.mooseroots.com/d/n/Gillian-Dobb

I also found this article from the Shreveport Louisiana Times (where she lived for some time) dated February 24, 1985. It has some of her history, when she became a US citizen, info about her husband, and fun MPI info. Hope this helps. Enjoy!

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#51 Post by KENJI »

Super find RG!
Thanks for taking the time to find it for us!!

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#52 Post by 308GUY »

KENJI wrote:Super find RG!
Thanks for taking the time to find it for us!!
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Are you SURE you're not Lily.......you sure seem to have TM's intuitive trend....does your "little voice" tell you these things...or at least where to look for them? :magnum:
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#53 Post by Rembrandt's Girl »

308GUY wrote:
KENJI wrote:Super find RG!
Thanks for taking the time to find it for us!!
X's 2 :wink:

Are you SURE you're not Lily.......you sure seem to have TM's intuitive trend....does your "little voice" tell you these things...or at least where to look for them? :magnum:
Haha, thanks, it's all good fun!

TM,
Rick Romer said in his blog (in a reply to Rubber Chicken, actually!) that Marvin married & divorced someone after he and Gillian divorced, so if Rick is right, I think that would make 4 marriages for him?

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Anyway, found a great pic of Gillian from 1965 rockin' the cat eye glasses...

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#54 Post by thechickinthemiddle »

Neat! If Higgins and Agatha hadn't only met in '76, that would be the perfect look for Agatha had Magnum done a 60s flashback episode.

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The Times (Shreveport, Louisiana) 26 Jul 1964, Sun (Page 78)

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