Autumn Warrior (7.13)

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Re: Autumn Warrior (7.13)

#21 Post by Stelth »

Random thoughts on Autumn Warrior:
The whole idea of Thomas' lame party was kind of sad. Mr. Belding being killed with his own AR-7? I think Zack was somehow responsible. Rambo Higgins, in his camo vest was kind of fun but required a lot of suspension of disbelief. The delinquent quickly sabotaging T.C.'s chopper in less than a minute? That was really a stretch. The scene where the kid knocks Thomas out with the hollow plastic butt of the AR-7 was silly...that light weight gun has the heft of a toy. If someone hit you with one, it would probably just make you mad. Higgins' well-lit dirt floored cave was very Gilligan's Islanesque. Magnum's reaction to Higgins' ass kicking was fun. And Rick's gal-pal, Marge was a nice piece of ass. The capper was Higgins being pissed over the bearded queen was a nice touch at the end. A better than average episode.
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#22 Post by SignGuyHPW »

Great episode I thought. It was rare that they let Higgins actually use his miliatary skills successfully so this was a great change of pace. Normally they'd have Higgins try something and fail as comedy and they did it with the net here, but to switch it to where he's surviving these kids who are armed without much trouble was a good way to make him regain some credibility. It was kind of a foreshadowing episode since Magnum slowly started to become much more of a responsible adult in the last season and change. I think part of that stemmed from this party making him realise that he couldn't hold a wild party without permission using the same group of people as 10-20 years prior.

The person responsible for the kids being the catalyst for them escaping was an interesting twist. It was also interesting to see how each kid reacted differently once murder was involved. The only real things I didn't understand was how Magnum got hurt with such a lightweight weapon (it was obviously very lightweight and was described as not being too powerful) and how the kids expected to actually escape and get to where they were wanting to go. I know they were young kids, but it's a pretty big stretch for them to take a rubber raft to the mainland or even back to where they can catch a commercial flight when they'd be considered missing fugatives.

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#23 Post by EZiller »

Always enjoy seeing the Sgt.-Major in action. I guess the juvenile prison farm cancelled the work release program after this fiasco.

TSM's behavior with Higgins being scheduled out of town reminded me of myself in high school or college years when my parents went out of town during the summer. Party time! TSM seemed a bit too old for this, but what I wondered was why they couldn't get hardly anyone to come to RN for a blowout??? Especially if Marge and Donna were going to be there!!! Top Ten MPI babes!

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I just watched this one again and I really enjoy this episode every time I watch it. Higgins heavy episodes are always good! And a Mr. Belding appearance, hilarious! The guy playing the young Higgins in world war 2 at the beginning looks incredibly like Val Kilmer, anyone else agree on that? And how fun to see Higgins running around setting traps and turning into Rambo/Steve McGarret Higgins! Love how Higgins finds the "secret cave" on the island, that guy is so resourceful! Glad to see that you guys noticed Marge and Donna (I know I sure did, wow!) and moved them to the Magnum babes list. The whole party thing cracked me up! Who WOULDN'T want to hit a party at the Robin Masters estate? I know I'd drop any plans to go to a party at some rich authors house in a heartbeat. Still, I get that they were trying to show the maturation process of TM and the group. Love the ending with the beard on the picture, classic Higgins rage at that one lol!

2 small observations:

-In the 30 seconds TC and Magnum got off the chopper and went over to the abandonded campground, the two juvenille delinquents were able to see that the chopper had been left vacant, run up to it, and jack it? Not very realistic.

-I agree with those of you who said that TM would not have been knocked out by that little rabbit gun. I know that they wanted Higgins to be the hero here and save the day but that was a little off to me. That thing was tiny and would not have put that giant gash on his head.

But small observations aside, a unique plot and a fun episode all around.

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Milton Collins wrote: -In the 30 seconds TC and Magnum got off the chopper and went over to the abandonded campground, the two juvenille delinquents were able to see that the chopper had been left vacant, run up to it, and jack it? Not very realistic.
My guess would be that they could hear the chopper coming for a while before it landed and were able to watch them. That'd give them time to be prepared to disable the chopper and get back to where they were unseen. Granted, it was quick, but it'd have lost something if Magnum and TC had stopped them at that point.

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SignGuyHPW wrote:
Milton Collins wrote: -In the 30 seconds TC and Magnum got off the chopper and went over to the abandonded campground, the two juvenille delinquents were able to see that the chopper had been left vacant, run up to it, and jack it? Not very realistic.
My guess would be that they could hear the chopper coming for a while before it landed and were able to watch them. That'd give them time to be prepared to disable the chopper and get back to where they were unseen. Granted, it was quick, but it'd have lost something if Magnum and TC had stopped them at that point.


Good point SignGuyHPW! I enjoy the posts about flubs and unrealistic scenes but I try not to dwell on them because it's such a good show and those "suspensions of belief" make the episodes happne so I shouldn't complain:)

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At the end of the episode Higgins has a great line. Can you explain the "blonde nymph" going upstairs with my safari jacket? Too funny. :D
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plateglass wrote:At the end of the episode Higgins has a great line. Can you explain the "blonde nymph" going upstairs with my safari jacket? Too funny. :D
I'm going through the series, and I watched this episode last night and had the same thought.

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SignGuyHPW wrote:Great episode I thought. It was rare that they let Higgins actually use his miliatary skills successfully so this was a great change of pace. Normally they'd have Higgins try something and fail as comedy and they did it with the net here, but to switch it to where he's surviving these kids who are armed without much trouble was a good way to make him regain some credibility.
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Milton Collins wrote:The guy playing the young Higgins in world war 2 at the beginning looks incredibly like Val Kilmer, anyone else agree on that?
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K Hale wrote:
Milton Collins wrote:The guy playing the young Higgins in world war 2 at the beginning looks incredibly like Val Kilmer, anyone else agree on that?
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A little bit. Or even Cary Elwes! He kind of looks more like that redshirt crew member that was killed in that Star Trek episode (original series). "The Changeling" I think it was. :) In all seriousness though, that's stuntman Bernie Pock. He was in Die Hard! Major props for that! :)
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One of my favourite endings. :higgins:

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I want to know how that girl wound up wearing his safari jacket. Because you know he hangs up his clothes in the closet where they belong. Was she playing dress up with Rick in Higgins' room? Or what?!
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K Hale wrote:I want to know how that girl wound up wearing his safari jacket. Because you know he hangs up his clothes in the closet where they belong. Was she playing dress up with Rick in Higgins' room? Or what?!
Some mysteries of the Universe will always remain mysteries. :lol:
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EPISODE: 7.13 Autumn Warrior

Famous guest stars: .5 for future Saved By The Bell fame for Mr. Belding
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Hawaiian shirts: 1
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Tigers Cap:
Island Hopper shirts: 1
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Shirtless Magnum:
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Higgins Organizations:
Higgins musings: 3
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Body Count (by Magnum):
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I know what you’re thinking: 1
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Magnumometer: 8.5
Magnumometer Moments: https://vimeo.com/682525554

The Episode Guide says that Thomas plays “Somewhere in the Night” on his sax…I don’t think that’s correct. It sure sounds like Strangers in the Night to me. TM playing Manilow? No. TM playing Sinatra? Yes.

The chopper that lands on the island has a different tail number: N4943T. Thought I’d spotted something new (I should know better by now) but the T.C.’s Chopper page mentions the tail number (but not its use in this particular episode).

Plot point quibbles:
1. Why would Mr. Belding put the rabbit gun together before they actually needed it. Seemed like a dumb move to me. Of course, the real dumb move was to even bring it, as they could easily have survived with no food for one weekend. Of course, it is needed to advance the plot I guess.
2. When Higgins is dragging Moki into the forest, why doesn’t Doug just grab the gun from Clint and go after them? Would have been pretty easy to catch up with Higgy having to drag a wounded teenager through the jungle.
3. Mr. Belding brought 5 boxes of shells? How many rabbits was he planning on shooting? (It had to be Mr. Belding that brought the shells, as they mention that the kids gear got searched but the “Counselor’s” does not.)
4. Someone else already mentioned the improbability of how quickly the kids stripped the chopper, but more importantly, how did they have the knowledge? They try to explain it away by saying Doug was in for stripping cars, and maybe there’s some comparison between disabling a car radio and a chopper radio, but how the hell does the kid know where the igniter is? And does it just pop off, with no tools? And it was Clint who stripped the chopper and Doug who was in for stripping cars, so they sent the wrong kid out to the chopper.

I feel the need to say once again that calling out all those quibbles didn’t really affect my enjoyment of the episode (although I didn’t think the young actors were very good) they’re just things that pop out at you and are hard to ignore. But as with most Magnum episodes, the rough spots are balanced out by the great moments, like the nymph in the safari jacket and the beard on the Queen. (Or is it the Queen Mother?) But one more tiny quibble…the scratches on Higgins face looked just a little too much like whiskers to me. Maybe it was a quiet tip of the cap by the makeup department to the role that introduced Jillie Mack to Tom Selleck...but I doubt it.

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