Solo Flight (7.16)

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Solo Flight (7.16)

#1 Post by J.J. Walters »

This is the official MM thread for Solo Flight (7.16). All discussions and reviews for this episode should go here. If you wish to rate the episode, please do so with the poll. The avg. score will be the official 'community rating', which will be used on the episode page (updated monthly).

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Original Air Date: 2/4/1987
Alone on a mountaintop, Magnum begins to question his own judgement in a case and is almost killed while lost in reflection of his past.
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#2 Post by IslandHopper »

Another solid episode from season 7. I remember watching this episode when it first aired and I always had a problem with the character played by Norman Fell. At that point, I had never seen Norman Fell in anything other than on "Threes Company" and his spin-off show, "The Ropers" and always liked him on those shows. He was always funny. He could be a grouch to his wife and the roommates, but when it came right down to it you knew he was a nice guy underneath. However, when I first saw him in this episode all those years ago, I was blown away by how mean his character was. It's funny, I had the same impression when I watched this episode last night. I guess I will always think of Norman Fell as Mr. Roper.

The one major flub in this episode is that the airplane that traps Magnum is not a P-40 (Warhawk/Tomahawk/Kittyhawk) as indicated by Magnum during his narration. The vertical stabilizer of the P-40 is shorter and rounder in appearance than the stabilizer seen on the plane in this episode. The fuselage of the P-40 is also longer with the cockpit/canopy set in the middle, unlike the plane in this episode. In addition the fuselage of the P-40 is more linear than the plane we see in this episode. You will notice that the plane featured in the episode has a triangular section right behind the cockpit/canopy where the pilots head would be and that it descends downward at an angle (appx. 35 degrees) until it mees the main part of the fuselage, and then the fuselage continues until it meets the vertical stabilizer. The P-40 does not have this characteristic. The lines of the P-40 are much cleaner and do not abruptly rise in a steep angle (3 feet from the stabilizer) until it mees the cockpit/canopy. The wing tips also seem to narrow to belong to the P-40. The part of the fuselage that houses the engine is also inconsistent with the P-40. Additionally, the P-40's at the time were typically painted OD-Green and many had the famouns "sharks teeth" painted at the front of the fuselage.

On a different note, I still think that the sound effect of the fly is the same sound effect used in "I Do" (season 3). :D
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#3 Post by Doc Ibold »

The ending rocked for this one!

I love how he smacks the fly on his neck and then realizes the significane of it!

Although, it does seem a bit weird that once he saw the hunters he didn't have them get help and walked ALL the way back to the estate.

Also, he was rock climbing up half the mountain, but after he escaped from under the plane, he just seemed to be walking down a hill.

Now, I'm not a big fan of heights, but if I wanted to climb a mountain, I'd rather just walk up it instead of climbing up a wall! Why wouldn't he just go up the way he came down?

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All things aside, really a classic ep, in my opinion. I loved that fact that TC/Rick/Higgins DIDN'T rescue him, even though I was hoping they would throughout.

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#4 Post by Shermy »

The beginning of this one makes it seem like a pale imitation of Home From the Sea. And they go to great lengths to get you to make the connection, with lots of footage from the earlier episode. But what really makes this episode stand out for me is the surreal quality it quickly develops. The flashbacks become more random, and Magnum's dialogue takes on a stream-of-consciousness style.

There's also a very clever moment where the centipede bites Norman Fell's character. The writers let you forget all about it, until later you see his neck beginning to develop a bizarre looking bulge. It's a really nice touch, and perfectly adds to the dreamlike quality of the scene.

I like that Tom Selleck has to carry the entire show- even more than he did in Home From the Sea. After the brief intro, it's essentially a one man play in which a guy lies on his back and acts lightheaded. But he knows the character so well by this point, he somehow makes the whole thing work. My only real complaint is the manner in which they trap Magnum under the plane. For some reason, the execution just always seemed a little too forced to me.

Overall, this is a solid character study of Magnum where we see him beginning to stand on his own. As Doc mentioned, it's also another classic ending. If there's one thing the MPI writers knew how to do, it was how to close the show.
IslandHopper wrote:The one major flub in this episode is that the airplane that traps Magnum is not a P-40 as indicated by Magnum during his narration.
Technically, you could argue that Magnum doesn't always know what he's talking about. :lol: Or that his mind was already being affected by the centipede bite, and he was just seeing what he wanted to see.

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#5 Post by J.J. Walters »

Wow, great episode reviews guys! IH, amazing breakdown of the plane wreckage! :shock:

This is a Top 5 episode IMHO, and made a big impression on me when I was a teenager. Poignant, unconventional, gripping, and filled with all sorts of wonderful little touches and details. As screenplays go, this is probably my favorite of all the episodes. References, analogies and metaphors are everywhere! And Selleck carries this episode from beginning to end flawlessly!

The scene where Magnum salutes the "Sleepy-Time Gal", with flashbacks to his fathers funeral ....... biggest emotional punch I've ever been hit by in the show!

By pure luck, I somehow was able to ID the movie that Magnum is watching at the beginning! It's the 1958 Korean War movie The Hunters, starring Robert Mitchum and Robert Wagner! Another nice touch that helps explain why he kept rewinding and watching the scene where the plane crashes to the ground.
Doc Ibold wrote:Although, it does seem a bit weird that once he saw the hunters he didn't have them get help and walked ALL the way back to the estate.

Also, he was rock climbing up half the mountain, but after he escaped from under the plane, he just seemed to be walking down a hill.
My take on this scene is this:

He didn't ask them for help (or even acknowledge them) because he was on a quest to improve himself, to not always rely on others, he was climbing the "self-actualization" pyramid, on a "Solo Flight". At that point, he HAD to finish the hike himself, with no help. I always assumed that the point where he see's the hunters, he's already at the base of the mountain. He already had descended down the steep part. Either that, he's going down the "other side of the mountain", the side that is not steep.

Great, great episode!
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My son and I watched this episode again and we caught a few more flubs.

1. Magnum is wearing “Lieutenant Commander” subdued rank insignia (brown oak leaves) on the collar of his jungle-fatigue-jacket. The flub is that Magnum was never a “Lieutenant Commander” in the Navy. He resigned as a Lieutenant, and when he was re-activated (Memories Are Forever), he was promoted to “Commander.” He skipped the rank of “Lieutenant Commander" altogether. The subdured rank insignia of Lieutenant Commander are brown oak leaves worn on each side of the collar. Subdued rank insignia are either flat black or brown depending on the rank represented. The purpose of the subdued rank insignia is for camouflage and concealment purposes. Typically rank insignia of officers in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines are either silver or gold in color. The silver and gold rank insignia are worn on dress uniforms (Class “A”), class “B”, or utilities not worn in combat situations. Because the silver and gold rank insignia are shiny and reflect light, and could give away your position in a combat situation, the subdued rank is worn instead. In “Blood and Honor” (season 6) Magnum is a full “Commander.“ He is seen wearing a khaki uniform with the silver oak leaves of a Commander (0-5), not the gold oak leaves of a Lieutenant Commander. Therefore, the rank insignia on Magnum’s fatigue jacket should have either been the rank of “Lieutenant” (two black bars-subdued) or “Commander” (black oak leaf-subdued). I think Magnum may have worn this same fatigue jacket in “Unfinished Business” as well. The Navy’s Officer rank through the rank of Commander is as follows:

(0-1) Ensign-Single Gold Bar............................Subdued color-Brown
(0-2) Lieutenant JG-Single Silver Bar................Subdued color-Black
(0-3) Lieutenant-Two Silver Bars......................Subdued color-Black
(0-4) Lieutenant Commander-Gold Oak Leaf......Subdued color-Brown
(0-5) Commander-Silver Oak Leaf....................Subdued color-Black

2. After Magnum becomes trapped under the plane and he sees the spider web for the first time, you can tell the web is a prop, which looks to be made of fishing line or string. The web is very symmetrical and flawless in appearance. However, when you see the shot of fly struggling to escape and the shot of the spider in the web going after the fly, the web is very thin, barely visible, and its pattern seems to be random exhibiting no symmetry at all. The shot appears to be older stock footage.

3. My son noticed this next flub involving the “Sleepy-Time-Gal” (girl painted on the plane). When Magnum first discovers the airplane and looks at the “Sleepy-Time-Gal” on the plane, as well as when he first becomes trapped under the plane you will see four rivets going from left-to-right just underneath the girls dress. The third rivet is actually on the girls left lower leg. However, after nightfall, Magnum is awaken by a dream of Higgins telling him to “stop the bleeding.” Magnum wakes up and tries to keep from falling asleep and tries to think of songs he can sing to keep himself awake. He asks “Sleepy-Time-Gal” if she has any requests and the camera cuts to a close-up of the girl on the plane. You can see that this is not the same girl as on the original plane as you will see two rivets on her right leg (upper thigh & knee) as well as a rivet on her left elbow. These rivets were not present on the girl from the original plane.
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#7 Post by J.J. Walters »

IslandHopper! Wow! :shock:

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Wow I'm speechless, having watched almost 7 seasons so far, this was the worst so far, just awful in so many ways... And you guys loved it???? Maybe this show isn't for me anymore.
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Liked the episode, but it was a bit intense at times. It's one of a few that has stayed in my memory since viewing 20 years ago. Among all of the flubs found so far, it seems that no one has mentioned that the postion of the plane before Magnum is trapped and after he is trapped is exactly the same!

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TSM couldn't have gotten into that postion unless a crane picked up the plane and put it on him.
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I liked this episode as well. It may be considered like Home From the Sea but I believe it is good in it's own right.

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#11 Post by J.J. Walters »

MPS wrote:Among all of the flubs found so far, it seems that no one has mentioned that the postion of the plane before Magnum is trapped and after he is trapped is exactly the same!

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TSM couldn't have gotten into that postion unless a crane picked up the plane and put it on him.
Great flub spot MPS! LOL! :)

IslandHopper, I'm shocked you didn't notice this. You better get your head back in the game, buddy! ;)
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#12 Post by Lily »

Sorry guys! Must admit this episode was one of my least favorites. Perhaps it was because I found it rather drawn out. Also, being a climber, I couldnt get past the fact that despite Magnum not feeling right, he told no one where he was climbing.

Oh yes, and possibly because I am female...I couldnt stand the fly! :oops:

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James J. Walters wrote:
MPS wrote:Among all of the flubs found so far, it seems that no one has mentioned that the postion of the plane before Magnum is trapped and after he is trapped is exactly the same!

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TSM couldn't have gotten into that postion unless a crane picked up the plane and put it on him.
Great flub spot MPS! LOL! :)

IslandHopper, I'm shocked you didn't notice this. You better get your head back in the game, buddy! ;)
That is interesting. I haven't seen the episode in a while, so it's hard for me to remember exactly what happened. I know Magnum was sitting in the cockpit and it started to move and he gets out and gets trapped. I can't remember if the plane rolls on him or slides down on top of him. The top photo of Magnum sitting in the cockpit shows the plane tilted slightly to the left and the bottom photo of Magnum trapped seems to show the plane tilted slightly to the right as if it had rolled to the right. It's hard to tell. Nice observation MPS.

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Paging IslandHopper (and anybody else with military aircraft expertise).

The following was recently emailed to me by a fellow MPI fan. Thoughts?
D. Fraser wrote:For your info, following is with respect to identification of the aircraft wreck type per the Solo Flight episode.

Shots as TSM first approaches the wreck show several recognition features. The leading edge of the wing in the foreground is destroyed back to the first spar, but apparently it was straight. The trailing edge of the wing tapers forward to the wingtip. Since the flap is just visible on the far side of the wing, a significant piece of the wing near the root is missing. The engine has three bladed prop and a short cowling (i.e. small radial engine), while it appears (probably incorrectly, as noted below) as a single seat canopy, and of all metal construction. These factors mean it had to be a fighter or advanced fighter trainer (almost everything else had 2 or 3 seats), and the small engine means pre-WWII design, while the all metal structure and enclosed canopy means close to WWII. Thus, likely F2A, F4F, P-35, or P-36. The distinctive cockpit/canopy shape ending on fuselage and straight rudder leading edge except small curvature at top, and two rudder hinges w/ upper one narrow and lower one wider also help.

Recognition was particularly challenging because the wreck was modified prior to shooting the episode. The shape of the fuselage top near the cockpit is the most distinctive feature. When TSM is looking at the nose art, you can see the slide that guides the canopy as it slides back (slots at the top edge) terminate at the back of the pilot seat. This slot should continue back about 2 feet, instead it is covered by obviously shoddy sheet metal with small round holes in it. As the hump goes aft, it gets lower, then suddenly drops down to more poor quality sheet covering the fuselage top, all obvious additions. Also, the pilot seat incorrectly has a solid bulkhead behind it. TSM concludes from the “bullet” holes in the newly added sheet metal that that the aircraft had obviously been shot down. However, this area is not critical. Most likely, the production crew added all this sheet metal to convert the wreck from a 2 seat trainer back to a fighter type appearance. The lack of any visible wing attachment area means the wing must be at the bottom of the fuselage, the only area we cannot see. It thus cannot be the F2A or the F4F, as both are mid-wing. The straight rudder leading edge eliminates the P-36, a precursor to the P-40. Inside the canopy is badly damaged, but the flat areas for the pilot’s feet aft of the rudder pedals is distinctive. Compare to shots of the aircraft in the AF museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. Same seat, different appearance because of the bulkhead added after the pilot seat on the wreck. Thus, the features are sufficient to identify the aircraft as a Seversky P-35. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seversky_P-35

There were several versions of the P-35. The P-35A had a larger engine, and 4 guns instead of 2, adding one in each wing in addition to the pair in the engine cowling. The AT-12 is a two seat training version of the P-35A. At the time of Pearl, there were P-35A’s were in the Philippine Islands, so some may have been in Hawaii at some point. The P-43 is a yet higher powered version, but has somewhat different upper fuselage.

No P-35’s were supposedly on Hawaii at the time of Pearl Harbor, but an AT-12A is listed. It is unlikely the wrecked aircraft was shot down, more likely, it crashed when being flow to/from Hawaii or in a training accident. http://www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html http://www.philsaeronauticalstuff.com/a ... at-12.html
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James J. Walters wrote:Paging IslandHopper (and anybody else with military aircraft expertise).

The following was recently emailed to me by a fellow MPI fan. Thoughts?
D. Fraser wrote:For your info, following is with respect to identification of the aircraft wreck type per the Solo Flight episode.

Recognition was particularly challenging because the wreck was modified prior to shooting the episode. The shape of the fuselage top near the cockpit is the most distinctive feature. When TSM is looking at the nose art, you can see the slide that guides the canopy as it slides back (slots at the top edge) terminate at the back of the pilot seat. This slot should continue back about 2 feet, instead it is covered by obviously shoddy sheet metal with small round holes in it. As the hump goes aft, it gets lower, then suddenly drops down to more poor quality sheet covering the fuselage top, all obvious additions. Also, the pilot seat incorrectly has a solid bulkhead behind it. TSM concludes from the “bullet” holes in the newly added sheet metal that that the aircraft had obviously been shot down. However, this area is not critical. Most likely, the production crew added all this sheet metal to convert the wreck from a 2 seat trainer back to a fighter type appearance.
The only thing I'm sure about this plane is that it is not a P-40 for the reasons I stated in my previous post. One of the things I thought odd about the plane in my previous post was the triangualr section behind the cockpit which descends down in a sharp angle. D. Frasier also mentioned this and says it may have been added prior to production, which makes the plane difficult to identify.

Even though the 'supposed' bullet holes were not in a critical area of the plane (as pointed out by D. Frasier), they were near the cockpit and presumably the pilot could have been hit directly and then crashed. The other problem I have with the crash scene is that the debris is not scattered like you would expect a plane crashing into the side of a mountain. The plane itself is for the most part intact. It has been a while since I've seen this episode, but I believe that the plane was located on the side of a mountain. I don't know if there would have been enough room for the pilot to execute a hasty landing on the side of the mountain, which would have enabled it to stay relatively intact.
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