Out of Sync (7.19)

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How Would You Rate This Episode?

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9.5 (One of the Best)
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9.0 (Excellent)
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8.5 (Very Good)
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8.0 (Pretty Good)
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6.5 (Not So Good)
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#31 Post by Styles Bitchley »

The ratings are all over the map on this one - ranging from "Perfect" to "Just Awful." My take on it is at the low end of the spectrum (Not so Good). My main reason for this is that the writers really made TM out to be a cad. I liked the idea of the porn case plot line and I liked the idea of Cynthia coming to visit after L.A., but the two together made for a scattered episode with senseless behaviour.

Just simply explaining to Cynthia what he was dealing with on the case would have just been considerate - regardless of his true feelings for her. Basically, he just behaves like a dick in this episode.

Also, Rick, TC and Higgins being enthusiastic about TM supposedly getting engaged to someone they know nothing about isn't realistic. It's your buddies' job to pull you aside and say "um, are you sure you know what you're doing here, pal?"

Sorry. But while I like some scenes from this one, the episode just doesn't gel. Too bad, because there's great potential.
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Frodoleader wrote:I think this episode always left me wanting more. More Dana Delany obviously, but even more. Maybe TM & Cynthia getting engaged? Of course, that would upset the dynamics of an already perfect cast. Maybe if Cynthia returned at the end of season 8, and instead of Rick marrying Cleo, TM married Cynthia? I think that would have made an interesting series ender: TM choking on the "I do" as the series ends, like Rick does.
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Doc Fred wrote:
Frodoleader wrote:I think this episode always left me wanting more. More Dana Delany obviously, but even more. Maybe TM & Cynthia getting engaged? Of course, that would upset the dynamics of an already perfect cast. Maybe if Cynthia returned at the end of season 8, and instead of Rick marrying Cleo, TM married Cynthia? I think that would have made an interesting series ender: TM choking on the "I do" as the series ends, like Rick does.
I had always thought Magnum was going to end up with Maggie Poole.... I might be the only Magnum fan who thought that, though.
I always looked at it like a Higgins/Agatha situation. She was willing, and he was otherwise engaged.

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Doc Ibold wrote:
I always looked at it like a Higgins/Agatha situation. She was willing, and he was otherwise engaged.
Well, she surely was in favor... I don't remember the name of the episode or the season, but in one episode Higgy said to Agatha that he planned to marry, and she assumed it was her... only to be heartbroken when she found out it was Lady Somebodyorother... that was one of the saddest things I saw in the whole series.
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#35 Post by Sinjin »

This is one of those wistful episodes about how tough it is to find love in later adulthood and keep it. It was difficult to watch Magnum sabotage his budding relationship with Cynthia, played by the incredibly beautiful Dana Delaney. There is a somewhat awkward but candid scene when they talk on the beach that seemed realistic and natural. I'm glad they decided to keep it in.

Events conspire to keep Magnum and Cynthia apart. He misses her at the airport and then she appears at the worst possible moment. Once Cynthia arrives, Magnum seems suddenly conflicted about her presence. He consistently abandons her in favor of his client. Flash forward to beaten-up, black-eyed Magnum, who reflects on the events leading up. He ends up pursuing a trumped-up case and losing Cynthia in the process. Apparently Magnum didn't feel he was good enough for her. The ending wasn't entirely satisfying for me.

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#36 Post by SignGuyHPW »

It was an up and down episode for me. It had a lot of the key elements I like for a Magnum episode (action, drama, comedy, great casting), but it didn't seem to take advantage of being able to tie them together.

I consider the actual case he was working on to be a serious one, but Magnum was acting as if it were nothing more than a simple review a security system case. He never took the client's claims of having been attacked or threatened seriously which was odd. It didn't really strike me as logical that Cynthia would come to Hawaii for such a short time. It seemed like she was only going to be in town for about 24 hours originally which seems like a rediculously short time. If the client and the director were just playing games or whatever then why did the director and his people beat Magnum so seriously? Why had the guys impersonated police officers which is a major crime and then committed kidnapping and assault and battery if they knew the couple did this type of thing a lot and it was no big deal? Why wouldn't Magnum have called Rick or TC to get picked up rather than run all over the island?

I think the snuff movie plot had a lot of potential if they did it in a different episode where Magnum was focused on helping. Dan Delaney is brilliant and I enjoyed her in this episode. It was also funny to see them actually use an outtake in an episode that aired as the actual scene used. It was very apparent that they went off script during that beach scene. I liked the comedy of Higgins trying to determine if ANYONE was going to use the room prepared in the main house. It was also kind of funny to have Magnum's client just steal his car and leave him behind.

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#37 Post by EZiller »

My wife was watching part of this with me the other day on DVR and she said the episode didn't make much sense to her. I told I think...and by think I actually my guess is that when TSM is talking about commitment, he is meaning his #1 commitment is still to his client and their case. His relationship with Cynthia is second. Then again, I do think TSM was a bit hurt that Cynthia elected to take a bump in LAX for a free flight voucher, in exchange for taking a flight 3 hours later, kind of a big deal when she was on a very short visit anyway. Which kind of says her top commitment wasn't necessarily spending as much time with him as possible. She certainly could have had UA page him at the airport or come to think of it, why didn't she just call and say she's taking another flight? It's 4 plus hours to fly from LAX-HNL.

Then again, maybe it's about timing. Really crucial to everything in life and never more than when you begin a relationship with someone.

I'll give it an 8.5. They should have tossed in a bikini scene with Dana Delicous.

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#38 Post by J. Rickley Schneider »

I thought this episode was really good.

It was one of the funniest that I have seen so far. Right up there with "Paper War" in terms of smiles.

The marriage proposal from "L.A." that so many criticized as being forced is put to good use in this episode with the confusion among everyone as to what Magnum and Cynthia's relationship status is.

Lots of confusion and lots of awkward moments make this episode so funny.

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#39 Post by LION »

i just watched this episode and noticed something i have never seen before. right at about the last 7 minutes of the episode when magnum and higgins are in the guest house. Magnum is on the phone, look over on the table to the left you see his A.A.P.I. award has been all glued back together and is on display. how cool is that. after breaking it when the nurse came thru the door from that episode.

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#40 Post by Little Garwood »

I voted this a [6.5] "Not So Good." There was never any chemistry between Magnum and Cynthia in "L.A." but at least this episode puts their relationship to rest. I agree with those who say that none of the elements of the episode really work despite their potential.

The super-awkward beach scene works to show how a Thomas and Cynthia marriage wouldn't work and while the scene is effective in that regard, it, along with every one of their scenes together, are dramatically static and cutesy-poo to the utmost.

The one scene I did like was the one at the KKC, when T.C. and Rick are playing it in true "comedy of manners" style. Kudos to Moseley and Manetti--and the script--for making that scene work.

Another thing I noticed with season seven is how Magnum rarely wears Aloha shirts anymore. I attribute that with the "Magnum must grow up" motif that we started getting in season six.
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#41 Post by Sperry »

I did feel sad that they didnt get together and it served as a little personal reminder of all those missed opportunities over the years.

That said if I never heard that Cynthia saxaphone again it would be too soon!!!

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Doc Fred wrote:
Doc Ibold wrote:
I always looked at it like a Higgins/Agatha situation. She was willing, and he was otherwise engaged.
Well, she surely was in favor... I don't remember the name of the episode or the season, but in one episode Higgy said to Agatha that he planned to marry, and she assumed it was her... only to be heartbroken when she found out it was Lady Somebodyorother... that was one of the saddest things I saw in the whole series.
It was, but she didn't give up. In the ep just prior to this one, in fact, she's finagled him into reading romantic poetry with her when Magnum doesn't show up to do it. I like to think of Agatha as slowly chipping away at him. :lol:

This weird episode is dreadful, IMO... just all over the place with people acting strangely. Someone upthread questioned why Higgins would be excited about Magnum and Cynthia marrying. In that whole scene I thought he was either about to get Magnum to do something for him or in some way pull the rug out from under him. Of course that didn't happen. And I have no explanation for Rick and TC going so far out of their way. I guess they were all just happy their friend was apparently marrying a nice girl? It just feels so anticlimactic. Nor did they ever really seem like they had anything going. So awkward.
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#43 Post by #1 Buzzettes Fan »

"People spend the night all the time." Wow, Magnum was tripping over his words multiple times. I thought this was pretty realistic, especially the kitchen scene with the mispronounced relax. That scene was the best! You saw them both cracking up and it just worked out great. I've been in those situations where you are trying your best to make it work but the more you speak, the more confusing things get. Magnum blew it this time. He made his girl feel so bad when she thought she would stay in the guesthouse. I guess he was too afraid to show that he cared, hence the commitment theme. He definitely didn't want to go to LA to see her, so if it was going to work out later it was going to be on his terms. Sometimes younger people are much better at just saying what's really on their mind instead of beating around the bush.

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#44 Post by T.Q. »

One of my lowest rated episodes bordering on just awful.

Can’t stand it.

Every scene and conversation is awkward to the nth.

Even the sax music annoys me. :lol:
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#45 Post by charybdis1966 »

I can’t add much to this only to reiterate my main thoughts as per LA - isn’t Dana Delaney so sweet looking ?
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