The People vs. Orville Wright (7.21)

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#51 Post by Carol the Dabbler »

nha trang wrote:... the shootout scene with Icepick is ridiculous. Everyone is taking cover behind desks and overturned couches...against Uzi fire? Yeah...ummm no...

Maybe they made couches differently in the 80s?
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I thought this was an excellent Rick-centric episode.

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#53 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

I can't believe people missed one very obvious flub, which happens not once but twice - On the still outside th King K club, which is shown twice, the old grey Audi is parked outside the club, when it's obviously been replaced by the newer sky-blue Audi several seasons before.

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#54 Post by Higgette »

I zoomed in on the intersection and was able to see the name of Rick's complex: Gateway Peninsula:
Type this into Google maps then go to street view: Kalanianaole highway on Kawaihae street honolulu hi

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Coops wrote:I have to say I laughed out loud when TM and TC were in the chopper chasing the accountant and TM spots the car and hands TC his binoculars. TC then tells TM to "Take the stick." and TM has to reach down to get it and makes an ugly face. THAT was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in MPI. :lol:
I reacted the same way.... and I can appreciate how Magnum felt... being in control of the copter. Although, he should have been reasonably ok with it, since he took flying lessons from TC in an earlier show.
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#56 Post by Doc Fred »

In subsequent episodes, and I'm thinking primarily of "Limbo", was anything every explained how Rick got out of jail for his guns???

One of the things that always bothers me is the obvious differences in times when alternate angles of particular scenes are shot... it becomes so obvious when the lighting and shadows are so different. It happened in this episode at about the 12 minute mark when from one angle, the sun is bright and giving deep shadows, but from the opposite angle, there are absolutely no shadows and no backlighting. To me, it's a continuous flub from season one through season eight. It's most annoying and disruptive to the flow.

Enjoyable story, complete with the usual and welcome relationship between the guys... I found myself annoyed at Carol (again)... she's always conning Magnum, but so unwilling to give him any help. I understand her situation, but Tanaka and Page looked the other way to let Magnum see "confidential" information; why couldn't Carol?????

I applaud Rick for his loyalty to Icepick, but question the writing that permitted him to be so hostile to Thomas immediately after his incarceration...

Did anyone else think Magnum looked like Tim Strawn (Kid Shellen's evil brother) from "Cat Ballou" when he had the thingie on his nose??

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#57 Post by Buck »

WHAT HAPPENED????

Rick ends up in jail on federal gun charges for 10 years?????????????????????????

How did I not remember this?

I thought he was at the final episode where Magnum goes back in the Navy.

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#58 Post by Doc Fred »

Buck wrote:WHAT HAPPENED????

Rick ends up in jail on federal gun charges for 10 years?????????????????????????

How did I not remember this?

I thought he was at the final episode where Magnum goes back in the Navy.
I think the first episode in the 8th season explained how he got back into circulation. Apparently, if I recall correctly, Carol did some manipulations and maneuvers with the feds to get him out. Honestly, I don't recall the actual reasons, but I'm pretty sure that if you can look at the episode I mentioned, you'll see this. When I saw Rick in season 8, I thought the writers had just gotten him out of jail without an explanation, but looked back and saw that there had been a reason given.
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#59 Post by marlboro »

^^^ The reason given is found in the very next episode "Limbo." Magnum (offscreen) discovered that Rick's arrest warrant had been filled out using the name "Rick Wright" instead of "Orville Wright." Somehow this was enough to have all of the charges dismissed and Rick was immediately released.


It's like one of those old movie serials where at the end of one episode you see a buggy full of passengers tumble off of a cliff and then when you see the beginning of the next chapter they show another version of the scene where everyone jumped clear before the fall.

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#60 Post by Doc Fred »

marlboro wrote:^^^ The reason given is found in the very next episode "Limbo." Magnum (offscreen) discovered that Rick's arrest warrant had been filled out using the name "Rick Wright" instead of "Orville Wright." Somehow this was enough to have all of the charges dismissed and Rick was immediately released.


It's like one of those old movie serials where at the end of one episode you see a buggy full of passengers tumble off of a cliff and then when you see the beginning of the next chapter they show another version of the scene where everyone jumped clear before the fall.
Ain't that the truth!

I loved those old serials, and have several on DVD.. really enjoy them.
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#61 Post by Dave Anderson »

I don't care for this one, its not realistic or believable at all.

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#62 Post by Milton Collins »

I think this is an extremely good episode and gave it a 9. The whole plot had me intruiged, a hitman after Icepick, Rick arrested for killing the hitman and imprisoned, and good old TM on the case!

- Magnum's broken nose was hilarious! Loved when he went to Icepick's and the old mobster asked him "what happened to the other guy" lol. By the way, was this house used in another episode? When Magnum walked in and talked to Frank Foley it looked identical to the home used in season 3 episode Flashback as the Danforth Estate but then in a different room where Foley gets the picture of Icepick "murdered" it's clearly the same house that was used in several other episodes (Season 1 Skin Deep, Season 2 Woman on the Beach, Season 8 Forever In Time, and a couple others). Maybe someone can clarify that for me.

- Higgin's interview process was awesome! In his own way sabatouging the interview process for Rick's replacement by purposely picking the worst candidates lol. The Taco House lady was expecially funny, loved her!

- Loved to see Icepick alive! He's one of my fav recurring but non major characters. And yes the gunfight at the end was cheesy right down to the couches stopping uzi bullets but it was pretty funny to see that dorky dude playing Foley get gunned down and his awful acting as he "died" lol.

The end really shocked me the first time I saw this. Rick gets out only to be instantly thrown back in? I find this a bit on the unrealistic side, first of all I doubt they had been fired in the last decade or so and wouldn't they have recognized that he was a weapons specialist in Nam and those were simply relics he had brought back? Maybe not as I'm not an expert on firemarms enforcement but it just seemed to me like that might have been avoidable. Then again Rick seemed to be popping up with uzis and machine guns that were far beyond illegal throughout the entire series so maybe this was just him getting his lol. Anyway, this was a really good episode in my opinion, I hadn't seen it in a long time until the other day and I completely enjoyed it!

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#63 Post by charybdis1966 »

I quite liked this episode it wasn’t great but when the plot isn’t stellar the characterisations and performances elevate the viewing experience.

Upsides – the hilarious interviewee who was hoping to use her feminine wiles on the board of the KKC to get her Rick’s job, being relieved that the passerby getting her skirt ripped off (by it being trapped in the car door of the fleeing accountant) was not a cheap ploy to show flesh but helps identify the getaway car from TC’s chopper, although they did seem to find that car a bit too easily.
The comedic effect of the sticking plaster on TM's nose - simple but funny.

Downside – apart from the obvious one of Carol being a guest star in YET another episode (ggrrrrr…) it was a rather routine plot with the late twist jolting the viewer out of the end of episode jollity (i.e. main characters share a joke and freeze frame on smiling faces to end credits).

One thing I did notice was it appeared to me that the first interviewee for Rick’s job sounded like his voice had been dubbed in with a rather stilted/put-on fake English accent. I’m speculating that when filming the actor used was American and later on the director thought it’d be a good idea to have him be an english guy.

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#64 Post by KingKC »

Honestly the 7th season somewhat confused me originally because I thought it was going to be the last season. I did not know about the decision to have an 8th season until later. In Autumn Warrior I thought they were going to kill off Higgins. Then in On The Fly I thought it was the end of TC. Then in this episode I thought they were writing out Rick. I had no idea Limbo was coming and the original intent for an ending was killing off Magnum. This show was just a build up to Limbo IMHO.

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#65 Post by Mark R.Y. »

Doc Fred wrote: Did anyone else think Magnum looked like Tim Strawn (Kid Shellen's evil brother) from "Cat Ballou" when he had the thingie on his nose??

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Hahaha, love it! At first glance I actually thought this is a pic of TS, and was wondering what the heck it was from until I read on.

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