Limbo (7.22)
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What Did We Know at the End of Season 7
I just watched "Limbo" on DVD and I was trying to remember when it was announced that MPI would return for an 8th season? Does anyone know?
I recall watching "Limbo" when it first aired, but can't remember if we all mourned the end of the series and TM's "demise" or whether we knew there would be one final season after all.
In any case, "Limbo" was an impressive episode.
George
I recall watching "Limbo" when it first aired, but can't remember if we all mourned the end of the series and TM's "demise" or whether we knew there would be one final season after all.
In any case, "Limbo" was an impressive episode.
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Only saw this episode once before. Can't wait too see it again when I get to it...
This episode aired on my 9th birthday, and I didn't even know about the show until nearly twice that age.
"Looking For Space" is a great song. It definitely reminds me of my life and all the obstacles I face.......
This episode aired on my 9th birthday, and I didn't even know about the show until nearly twice that age.
"Looking For Space" is a great song. It definitely reminds me of my life and all the obstacles I face.......
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before I ask my question.......it is great to read your posts about how Magnum affects you. It is my favorite show of all-time and that is in large part due to the fact it makes you think and draws out your emotions......ALL of them. That, IMO, is what great writing is all about.
I recently saw 'Limbo' on the Sleuth channel. It may have been the first time I've seen it since the original air date and the repeat over the summer before season 8. What struck me funny was watching the episode and everyone acting as if he were already dead. The scene at the estate where they are gathered and speaking of him. They were dressed for a funeral.......but he wasn't dead yet. Was this a goof up? Was the scene showing Michelle at his bedside added in?
I recently saw 'Limbo' on the Sleuth channel. It may have been the first time I've seen it since the original air date and the repeat over the summer before season 8. What struck me funny was watching the episode and everyone acting as if he were already dead. The scene at the estate where they are gathered and speaking of him. They were dressed for a funeral.......but he wasn't dead yet. Was this a goof up? Was the scene showing Michelle at his bedside added in?
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Seaver41 that is exactally what my wife thought as well. I am assuming they were made to think he was already dead because the show was not supposed to come back for an eighth season. I can only speculate as to this being why everyone was talking as if TM had already died.Seaver41 wrote:before I ask my question.......it is great to read your posts about how Magnum affects you. It is my favorite show of all-time and that is in large part due to the fact it makes you think and draws out your emotions......ALL of them. That, IMO, is what great writing is all about.
I recently saw 'Limbo' on the Sleuth channel. It may have been the first time I've seen it since the original air date and the repeat over the summer before season 8. What struck me funny was watching the episode and everyone acting as if he were already dead. The scene at the estate where they are gathered and speaking of him. They were dressed for a funeral.......but he wasn't dead yet. Was this a goof up? Was the scene showing Michelle at his bedside added in?
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It's time to send Limbo back to Netflix...and I'm not ready to let it go! But I can't keep watching it and crying, either, so I'm off to the Post Office. The only reason I can make myself take it is that the sooner I send it back, the sooner I'll get the first DVD in Season 8. Sigh.
Thanks for mentioning the title of the John Denver song, Italian Ice. I heard and loved that song in my youth but could never remember the name so haven't been able to find it again...not trying very hard, I guess. It makes me cry, too!!
And thanks for sharing your story, Conch. I had a similar experience when my Dad was in the hospital. He'd been having health issues for a year or so and then one evening his heart stopped. My Mom called the paramedics and they revived him but he wasn't himself and kept having emergency situations with his potassium levels and fluid build up, etc. The Chaplain came in one night and asked if I wanted her to pray for him. I said "Yes" and then she asked if I wanted her to pray for a speedy recovery or an easy transition. I didn't know what to tell her and then it hit me that what I wanted was what he wanted. So she prayed for him to know that we loved him and wanted him to do what he knew was best for him. He died the next morning. And the world is a differnt place without him.
Change of subject...I can't see the keyboard when I'm crying!
Does anyone think the stretch of road just before Thomas tells Michelle to slam on the brakes is the same stretch of road that he sees the car with the skirt attached in People versus Orville Wright? There's kind of an angular curb-type thing there that I think I see in both episodes.
It just might be that a linear perfectionist like my self could talk her self into buying Season 7 BEFORE she buys Season 6 because of this episode!
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Thanks for mentioning the title of the John Denver song, Italian Ice. I heard and loved that song in my youth but could never remember the name so haven't been able to find it again...not trying very hard, I guess. It makes me cry, too!!
And thanks for sharing your story, Conch. I had a similar experience when my Dad was in the hospital. He'd been having health issues for a year or so and then one evening his heart stopped. My Mom called the paramedics and they revived him but he wasn't himself and kept having emergency situations with his potassium levels and fluid build up, etc. The Chaplain came in one night and asked if I wanted her to pray for him. I said "Yes" and then she asked if I wanted her to pray for a speedy recovery or an easy transition. I didn't know what to tell her and then it hit me that what I wanted was what he wanted. So she prayed for him to know that we loved him and wanted him to do what he knew was best for him. He died the next morning. And the world is a differnt place without him.
Change of subject...I can't see the keyboard when I'm crying!
Does anyone think the stretch of road just before Thomas tells Michelle to slam on the brakes is the same stretch of road that he sees the car with the skirt attached in People versus Orville Wright? There's kind of an angular curb-type thing there that I think I see in both episodes.
It just might be that a linear perfectionist like my self could talk her self into buying Season 7 BEFORE she buys Season 6 because of this episode!
Oh!...My!...God!
Sigh...again!
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A notable episode, both concerning the plot, and when I first watched it (read on)!...
[rating=9.5]
In a shootout in a warehouse, Thomas is hit and left in a coma. As his friends prepare to mourn his passing, Thomas finds himself in limbo, guided by the ghost of Mac, as he tries to save ex-wife Michelle from assassins. Thankfully not the finale…
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This review contains moderate spoilers.
After seven seasons, the producers of ‘Magnum, p.i.’ felt that the show had run its course and decided to bring it to an end. And there way to round it off, was to kill off our beloved hero. There was outcry from fans!
The episode starts only moments before Magnum is shot, leaving him to spend the rest of the episode walking around in limbo, guided by the ghost of (the original) Mac. No-one else can see him. I felt that these scenes were played well, with just the right amount of comedy thrown in, to give it amusing moments but as not to spoil the seriousness of the story.
The episode also features one of the biggest line-ups of recurring guest stars: Mac, Lt. Tanaka, Agatha, Doc. Ibold, Carol, Maggie, Buck Greene… they’re all here. The only regular guest who does not appear is Ice Pick. The only other episode that I can think of that features such a large recurring guest line-up is season six’s ‘The Treasure of Kalaniopu’u’.
Although it can be watched ‘stand alone’, this is one of the show’s (relatively few) episodes that is probably better with knowledge of previous stories, particularly those regarding Michelle (and daughter Lily) to get full effect.
This episode is also of particular note for me. I had seen re-runs of the earlier episodes on ITV in the early 1990s, and when Five came to run the whole series in 2002-3, I watched (and recorded) each and every day. However, I had never seen this far down the series and was looking forward to seeing this famous episode. Anyway, the morning that this was on, I started my video recorder (as I was still using then), sat down to watch… and about two minutes in, just before Magnum is shot, the street suffered a power cut! I couldn’t believe the bad luck!
Thankfully, a few weeks later, a friend of a friend provided me with a copy of their recording of the episode (albeit rather poor quality), so I was able to catch up.
This story is quite a hard one to watch – is it really the end for Magnum? Thankfully, the show was renewed for an eighth, final season, where things were tied up more satisfactorily. The moment at the end of this episode though, where Magnum finally strolls off into heaven (or so it seems) still is a sad moment.
Although I wouldn’t quite give this a perfect 10, I still like this episode enough to give it a very decent 9.5. I’m just glad it wasn’t the end!
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Other notes, bloopers and misc.:
* The opening trailer of this episode is great in that it doesn’t give too much away. From it, we know that Magnum is shot, but it does not give away the whole limbo plot. Bearing this in mind, I am certain that some of the other opening trailers that are missing on the DVD versions were included on the original broadcasts.
* As well as producing, Tom Selleck worked with Chas. Floyd Johnson to come up with this story.
* This episode features no narration from Magnum.
* As mentioned in my review, I couldn’t believe my bad luck when, after waiting for this episode, the power blacked out in the street. So desperate was I to see the story, I threw my video recorder into my backpack, and hurriedly cycled up to my grandmothers, who lived a couple of miles away. I got there just in time to see Magnum disappear into heaven at the end!!
[rating=9.5]
In a shootout in a warehouse, Thomas is hit and left in a coma. As his friends prepare to mourn his passing, Thomas finds himself in limbo, guided by the ghost of Mac, as he tries to save ex-wife Michelle from assassins. Thankfully not the finale…
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This review contains moderate spoilers.
After seven seasons, the producers of ‘Magnum, p.i.’ felt that the show had run its course and decided to bring it to an end. And there way to round it off, was to kill off our beloved hero. There was outcry from fans!
The episode starts only moments before Magnum is shot, leaving him to spend the rest of the episode walking around in limbo, guided by the ghost of (the original) Mac. No-one else can see him. I felt that these scenes were played well, with just the right amount of comedy thrown in, to give it amusing moments but as not to spoil the seriousness of the story.
The episode also features one of the biggest line-ups of recurring guest stars: Mac, Lt. Tanaka, Agatha, Doc. Ibold, Carol, Maggie, Buck Greene… they’re all here. The only regular guest who does not appear is Ice Pick. The only other episode that I can think of that features such a large recurring guest line-up is season six’s ‘The Treasure of Kalaniopu’u’.
Although it can be watched ‘stand alone’, this is one of the show’s (relatively few) episodes that is probably better with knowledge of previous stories, particularly those regarding Michelle (and daughter Lily) to get full effect.
This episode is also of particular note for me. I had seen re-runs of the earlier episodes on ITV in the early 1990s, and when Five came to run the whole series in 2002-3, I watched (and recorded) each and every day. However, I had never seen this far down the series and was looking forward to seeing this famous episode. Anyway, the morning that this was on, I started my video recorder (as I was still using then), sat down to watch… and about two minutes in, just before Magnum is shot, the street suffered a power cut! I couldn’t believe the bad luck!
Thankfully, a few weeks later, a friend of a friend provided me with a copy of their recording of the episode (albeit rather poor quality), so I was able to catch up.
This story is quite a hard one to watch – is it really the end for Magnum? Thankfully, the show was renewed for an eighth, final season, where things were tied up more satisfactorily. The moment at the end of this episode though, where Magnum finally strolls off into heaven (or so it seems) still is a sad moment.
Although I wouldn’t quite give this a perfect 10, I still like this episode enough to give it a very decent 9.5. I’m just glad it wasn’t the end!
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Other notes, bloopers and misc.:
* The opening trailer of this episode is great in that it doesn’t give too much away. From it, we know that Magnum is shot, but it does not give away the whole limbo plot. Bearing this in mind, I am certain that some of the other opening trailers that are missing on the DVD versions were included on the original broadcasts.
* As well as producing, Tom Selleck worked with Chas. Floyd Johnson to come up with this story.
* This episode features no narration from Magnum.
* As mentioned in my review, I couldn’t believe my bad luck when, after waiting for this episode, the power blacked out in the street. So desperate was I to see the story, I threw my video recorder into my backpack, and hurriedly cycled up to my grandmothers, who lived a couple of miles away. I got there just in time to see Magnum disappear into heaven at the end!!
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Forgot to include... (I do this at the end of each season)
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Seventh season overview
After two shaky seasons (although I’ve since come to decide that season six wasn’t THAT bad), the quality of ‘Magnum, p.i.’ returned for the show’s seventh season.
Saying that, it gets off to a start by what is by far the weakest of the show’s feature-length / two-part stories, ‘L.A’. It is saved from bombing even more than it might, thanks to the good chemistry between Tom Selleck and guest star Dana Delany.
But once past ‘L.A.’, the season not only returns to form, but offers up some series classics. ‘A.A.P.I’, which sees the return of many previous ‘one off’ guest stars, sets a trend, and solid classics ‘Death and Taxes’ (dubbed “MPI does ‘Miami Vice’” by many), ‘Little Girl Who’, and ‘Paper War’ follow in succession. A few episodes later, we get more great installments such as ‘Solo Flight’, and ‘Laura’ featuring Frank Sinatra.
The season isn’t ALL perfect – there are a couple more take-it-or-leave it examples, and terrible ‘Murder, She Wrote’ crossover ‘Novel Connection’, and later ‘Death of the Flowers’, are some of my least favourite installments of the show’s run.
But on the whole, the quality is very high, and brings MPI back to its former greatness.
The season finishes on a seemingly final note, as Magnum is killed off. Fear not though, as the show was thankfully renewed for one more season to round things off more pleasingly.
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Seventh season overview
After two shaky seasons (although I’ve since come to decide that season six wasn’t THAT bad), the quality of ‘Magnum, p.i.’ returned for the show’s seventh season.
Saying that, it gets off to a start by what is by far the weakest of the show’s feature-length / two-part stories, ‘L.A’. It is saved from bombing even more than it might, thanks to the good chemistry between Tom Selleck and guest star Dana Delany.
But once past ‘L.A.’, the season not only returns to form, but offers up some series classics. ‘A.A.P.I’, which sees the return of many previous ‘one off’ guest stars, sets a trend, and solid classics ‘Death and Taxes’ (dubbed “MPI does ‘Miami Vice’” by many), ‘Little Girl Who’, and ‘Paper War’ follow in succession. A few episodes later, we get more great installments such as ‘Solo Flight’, and ‘Laura’ featuring Frank Sinatra.
The season isn’t ALL perfect – there are a couple more take-it-or-leave it examples, and terrible ‘Murder, She Wrote’ crossover ‘Novel Connection’, and later ‘Death of the Flowers’, are some of my least favourite installments of the show’s run.
But on the whole, the quality is very high, and brings MPI back to its former greatness.
The season finishes on a seemingly final note, as Magnum is killed off. Fear not though, as the show was thankfully renewed for one more season to round things off more pleasingly.
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I've been thinking (yes, it does happen occaisonally!)...
One little touch I would have liked to have seen was as Magnum walks off into 'heaven' at the end. When Higgins calls him back, and Magnum looks behind him. It would have been great if he had done his famous 'double eyebrow wiggle'.
(It's hard to think that he actually only ever did this once (twice, if you count the re-used shot) in 'China Doll', but it was immortalised in the opening credits for the whole run)
One little touch I would have liked to have seen was as Magnum walks off into 'heaven' at the end. When Higgins calls him back, and Magnum looks behind him. It would have been great if he had done his famous 'double eyebrow wiggle'.
(It's hard to think that he actually only ever did this once (twice, if you count the re-used shot) in 'China Doll', but it was immortalised in the opening credits for the whole run)
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Re: Limbo (7.22)
Actually, James, you neglected to mention one other recurring character who was in this episode -- though I'm not entirely sure which one! Both Mac and "Mac" appeared (the latter only briefly).[from Episode Note 4] The only major recurring character to not appear in this episode is Icepick; "Mac", Tanaka, Agatha, Doc Ibold, Carol, Maggie Poole, Buck Greene... they're all here. Most episodes only feature one or two major recurring characters.
Doc, I assume you mean Season 7 on the DVD? Judging by Episode Note 2, the broadcast version IS the modified version, but the modifications were very slight:Doc Ibold wrote:On Season 7, Limbo is (from what I can tell) the ORIGINAL broadcast version.
[From Episode Note 2] After Season Eight was greenlighted, "Limbo" underwent some minor edits to reenforce the idea that Magnum is not really dead (Michelle's visit to the hospital). Still, some scenes couldn't be re-done or re-edited, namely the scene were everybody is at Robin's Nest dressed in black, and talking about Magnum in the past tense.
Doc, I'm pretty sure it was just the dogs that saw him. In the guest-house scene, Magnum was hoping that Lily could see him, and for a second he (and we) thought she did, but it turned out she had only spotted his photograph. Unless there was a later scene where it seemed like she really did see him?Doc Ibold wrote:I thought that was REALLY cool in that only Lily and the lads could actually "see" him, kind of like the popular notion that only children and animals can see ghosts.
Not exactly, and yes, respectively, Seaver, according to Episode Note 2 (see quote box above).Seaver41 wrote:What struck me funny was watching the episode and everyone acting as if he were already dead. The scene at the estate where they are gathered and speaking of him. They were dressed for a funeral.......but he wasn't dead yet. Was this a goof up? Was the scene showing Michelle at his bedside added in?
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Right, Season 8 did turn this into a two-parter, with "Infinity & Jelly Donuts" pulling Magnum back to save Michelle. You could even think of it as a three-parter, since "Pleasure Principle" dealt with everyone eventually getting back to normal.Dan wrote:... considering that at this point the series has run seven seasons, it would seem more fitting to at least have a double episode to finish off... but of course, Season 8 is on it's way.
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Re: Limbo (7.22)
Ah, yes. It appears that I was fooled by the old dead-recurring-character-making-a-non-flashback-appearance trick!Carol the Dabbler wrote:Actually, James, you neglected to mention one other recurring character who was in this episode -- though I'm not entirely sure which one! Both Mac and "Mac" appeared (the latter only briefly).
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And maybe even four parts, Carol...although not consecutive...if you consider that Unfinished Business actually wraps up the loose ends of Limbo and Infinity and Jelly Doughnuts.
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Also...I think there is a later scene where Lily sees Thomas...at least it looked like it to me. When Michelle comes back from her near-escape on the road and while she and Edward are talking, Thomas starts to walk away and Lily walks over to some trees and looks toward him through the trunks. It seems to me that they're seeing each other...in fact, I think Thomas acually smiles at her before he heads into the fog.
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Also...I think there is a later scene where Lily sees Thomas...at least it looked like it to me. When Michelle comes back from her near-escape on the road and while she and Edward are talking, Thomas starts to walk away and Lily walks over to some trees and looks toward him through the trunks. It seems to me that they're seeing each other...in fact, I think Thomas acually smiles at her before he heads into the fog.
???? again.
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