No, there are some good ones, but overall I think the tone of the show became more serious, less fun, and less about the core group of characters.Styles Bitchley wrote:As in, you don’t even like any episodes post season 4?jeffran wrote:This may be controversial, but I'm a season 1-4 guy. While there are several good - maybe great - episodes post season-4, the tone of the show changed sufficiently that I don't enjoy those seasons.
Given that, my ranking would be:
S3
S4
S2
S1
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Same here - but I'll also watch a couple early season 5 episodes. As you say, there are a few good episodes in later seasons, but they feel different. (I've analyzed many reasons for the change, but I won't bore people by going into details.)jeffran wrote:This may be controversial, but I'm a season 1-4 guy. While there are several good - maybe great - episodes post season-4, the tone of the show changed sufficiently that I don't enjoy those seasons.
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Really? You do know who your audience is, right?Mad Kudu Buck wrote:Same here - but I'll also watch a couple early season 5 episodes. As you say, there are a few good episodes in later seasons, but they feel different. (I've analyzed many reasons for the change, but I won't bore people by going into details.)jeffran wrote:This may be controversial, but I'm a season 1-4 guy. While there are several good - maybe great - episodes post season-4, the tone of the show changed sufficiently that I don't enjoy those seasons.
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I wouldn't mind the details!Mad Kudu Buck wrote:Same here - but I'll also watch a couple early season 5 episodes. As you say, there are a few good episodes in later seasons, but they feel different. (I've analyzed many reasons for the change, but I won't bore people by going into details.)jeffran wrote:This may be controversial, but I'm a season 1-4 guy. While there are several good - maybe great - episodes post season-4, the tone of the show changed sufficiently that I don't enjoy those seasons.
I have a hypothesis - no data - but I think the arrival of Miami Vice, which was relatively edgy and dark (and certainly not fun IMO), perhaps led to the writers striking a similar tone with MPI.
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jeffran wrote:I have a hypothesis - no data - but I think the arrival of Miami Vice, which was relatively edgy and dark (and certainly not fun IMO), perhaps led to the writers striking a similar tone with MPI.
Miami Vice was hugely influential on some of the later episodes. Death and Taxes and Laura are the best examples. But after those two there are only 2 or 3 more that had that MV vibe, I think. I honestly think the later seasons may be a bit lighter than the first 4.
I think that the main issue is that the writing just isn't as good. I think I've read that Donald Bellisario took a step back from the series around the half way point, and I think his steadying hand was missed. I think there were still a lot of great episodes in those later years, but the hit to miss ratio took a swing after Bellisario left. So you end up with Jim"Mac"Bonnick, Higgins as Robin, Magnum acting more childish, Rick being relegated to comic relief a lot of the time, etc.
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Mues to all of this!marlboro wrote:jeffran wrote:I have a hypothesis - no data - but I think the arrival of Miami Vice, which was relatively edgy and dark (and certainly not fun IMO), perhaps led to the writers striking a similar tone with MPI.
Miami Vice was hugely influential on some of the later episodes. Death and Taxes and Laura are the best examples. But after those two there are only 2 or 3 more that had that MV vibe, I think. I honestly think the later seasons may be a bit lighter than the first 4.
I think that the main issue is that the writing just isn't as good. I think I've read that Donald Bellisario took a step back from the series around the half way point, and I think his steadying hand was missed. I think there were still a lot of great episodes in those later years, but the hit to miss ratio took a swing after Bellisario left. So you end up with Jim"Mac"Bonnick, Higgins as Robin, Magnum acting more childish, Rick being relegated to comic relief a lot of the time, etc.
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help!!! here I go against the majority!
best seasons:
S7
S3
S6 (although some don't like it)
S2
S4
weakest seasons:
S1 (I know, it's a fan favorite, but I personally found it the weakest of all seasons)
S5
S8 (if wasn't one of the best is because it only has 13 syndicated episodes)
So, I feel bad to say that I don't like the first season because that's where the show took off and the fans like it a lot, but I can't get into it because the I don't find most of the episodes very exceptional. Maybe it's the weakest due to the terrible 'Missing in action' which in my opinion is the worst episode of all time?
On the contrary, the sixth season is one of the fans' least favorites while I find it very solid because most of the episodes were light-hearted and very cheerful and the absence of Robin's nest in the first few episodes offered a fresh adventure and pulled the show a bit out of the ordinary. 'the treasure of Kalaniopu'u' is one of my all time favorites!
best seasons:
S7
S3
S6 (although some don't like it)
S2
S4
weakest seasons:
S1 (I know, it's a fan favorite, but I personally found it the weakest of all seasons)
S5
S8 (if wasn't one of the best is because it only has 13 syndicated episodes)
So, I feel bad to say that I don't like the first season because that's where the show took off and the fans like it a lot, but I can't get into it because the I don't find most of the episodes very exceptional. Maybe it's the weakest due to the terrible 'Missing in action' which in my opinion is the worst episode of all time?
On the contrary, the sixth season is one of the fans' least favorites while I find it very solid because most of the episodes were light-hearted and very cheerful and the absence of Robin's nest in the first few episodes offered a fresh adventure and pulled the show a bit out of the ordinary. 'the treasure of Kalaniopu'u' is one of my all time favorites!
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if PERHAPS I don't write very well in English it's because I'm Italian and I write everything in Italian and have it translated into English by Google Translate. The seventh season episodes "Forty" and "The aunt who came to dinner" are unreleased in Italy and were only broadcast by the Sky pay-TV channel "Fox Retro" in the original language with Italian subtitles. Thought I'd mention it
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Benvenuti a bordo, ThomasThomas Tinto wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:16 pm if I don't write very well in English it's because I'm Italian and I write everything in Italian and have it translated into English by Google Translate. The seventh season episodes "Forty" and "The aunt who came to dinner" are unreleased in Italy and were only broadcast by the Sky pay-TV channel "Fox Retro" in the original language with Italian subtitles. Thought I'd mention it
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I prefer the earlier seasons to the later ones. They are all great, but season 7 and 8 seem to be much darker, more serious...I blame Miami Vice. Genesis music and all.
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What about dudes wearing shoulder pads under their sport jackets?Aloha Friday wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:58 am I prefer the earlier seasons to the later ones. They are all great, but season 7 and 8 seem to be much darker, more serious...I blame Miami Vice. Genesis music and all.
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Yep, that and the t-shirts with suits and slip on shoes with no socks.
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I rank the best and worst episode of all seasons according to my taste.
Season 1:
Best "Skin Deep 1.6"
Worst "Missing in action 1.9 (probably my least favorite episode of the entire series)".
Season 2:
Best "Computer date 2.14"
Worst "Dead man's Channel 2.2".
Season 3:
best "Past tense 3.5" (I don't know why many hate it)
worst: "Basket case 3.15".
Season 4:
Best "Limited engagement 4.5"
Worst: "A sens of debt 4.8"
Season 5:
Best: "Luther Gillis: File 001 5.10"
Worst "Blind Justice 5.7 (I know, some like it but for me how it unfolds is damn boring)"
Season 6:
Best "The treasure of Kalaniopu'u 6.9"
Worst "Going home 6.7".
Season 7:
Best "Paper war 7.8 (My favorite episode of all time)"
Worst: "Limbo 7.22"
Season 8:
Best "Pleasure principle 8.2"
Worst: "The love that lies 8.6 (Another one that others like , but when I look at it I'm bored to death)"
I made a thread about it: https://magnum-mania.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4740
Season 1:
Best "Skin Deep 1.6"
Worst "Missing in action 1.9 (probably my least favorite episode of the entire series)".
Season 2:
Best "Computer date 2.14"
Worst "Dead man's Channel 2.2".
Season 3:
best "Past tense 3.5" (I don't know why many hate it)
worst: "Basket case 3.15".
Season 4:
Best "Limited engagement 4.5"
Worst: "A sens of debt 4.8"
Season 5:
Best: "Luther Gillis: File 001 5.10"
Worst "Blind Justice 5.7 (I know, some like it but for me how it unfolds is damn boring)"
Season 6:
Best "The treasure of Kalaniopu'u 6.9"
Worst "Going home 6.7".
Season 7:
Best "Paper war 7.8 (My favorite episode of all time)"
Worst: "Limbo 7.22"
Season 8:
Best "Pleasure principle 8.2"
Worst: "The love that lies 8.6 (Another one that others like , but when I look at it I'm bored to death)"
I made a thread about it: https://magnum-mania.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4740